Cloning

[Scabman]

Bernann McKinney from the U.S. holds one of five cloned pitbull pupies during her first meeting with them at the Seoul National University Hospital for Animals in Seoul, South Korea, Tuesday, Aug. 5, 2008. McKinney has received five baby dogs — copies of her beloved late pitbull 'Booger'- from a South Korean biotech firm in what it calls the world's first commercial canine cloning service.


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Apparently she paid $ 150,000 for the "Boogers".
Any thoughts on this lady's mental health or cloning in general?

[dunamis]

Man, it'd be pretty terrible if one got hit by a car. *POOF* $30,000!

[Scabman]

Man, it'd be pretty terrible if one got hit by a car. *POOF* $30,000!

Yeah, she needs to get those bitches insured!

[KommieKat]

If I were to loose one of my appendages or internal organs, than yes, I am all for it.

If it were possible to clone my entire body, say at the age of 30, and transfer my brain or retained memories to the newer cloned body, than again yes, I am all for it.

[Severina]

^^^^^
and that's the issue. All you get from clones is identical looking but with empty memories ... and no-one knows how the brain retains them. Even if it were possible when do you transfer the memories ... can't do it when clone is a baby or pre-teen. So, your memories in storage till clone is old enough? ... by then it's got memories of it's own! ... fail!

[Fishypancake]

I think that its a good thing. I mean of course clones are only good in moderation, and playing god is wrong , and blah blah to the blizzy , but I think that cloning is going to be a major issue down the road. A lot like the whole abortion thing. It will only be avalible for animals, or body parts for medical purposes, because I really do not think humans are going to be stupid enough to clone humans. That is intill WWIII when the world ends. Thats not going to be for another 9 years though.

[Negativecool]

All of her cloned pets, although technically successful, will either have severe health problems, or live relatively short lives.

For whatever reason, the lifespan of all successful clones are greatly reduced compared to their "normal" counterparts. Science has yet to find an answer to this.

The cloned dogs' offspring, however, will live normal lives with normal life spans.

IMO this chick is fuckin nuts, but hey, different strokes for different folks. If ya got 150 grand to blow, why the fuck not I suppose.

[Celtic Crusher]

If ya got 150 grand to blow, why the fuck not I suppose.

That's what I was gonna say. I wouldn't do it now, but if I had the money to spare, I would.



Anyway, I have no problems with cloning. I personally can't see God becoming pissed off at us for creating life. Terminating it, yes. But all we're doing is copying what he has done in our own little way.

I personally hope it takes off and eventually we will have the technology to clone fish and sheep and pigs and the whole lot of edible animals. Which will surely end world hunger and the human race can advance as one solid unit.

[Sex?]

Which will surely end world hunger and the human race can advance as one solid unit.

Will NEVER happen. Not unless they discover African people's crap prolongs life.

[Celtic Crusher]

Will NEVER happen. Not unless they discover African people's crap prolongs life.

Em..... huh?

[Pinkslit]

Why would anyone want to clone "boogers"?

[Sex?]

Em..... huh?

No government cares about hunger. I used Africa as a example. Africa gets some help from US and EU, and then they owe favors to them, like land or having to put US/EU products on African market. African products can't compete with their prices, so their economy gets even worse. Africa is a nice little piggy bank and it's in no ones interest to see it on it's own four feet.

So only way it could pay off to remove hunger from Africa, is if their shit could be sold for a nice price.

[Celtic Crusher]

No government cares about hunger. I used Africa as a example. Africa gets some help from US and EU, and then they owe favors to them, like land or having to put US/EU products on African market. African products can't compete with their prices, so their economy gets even worse. Africa is a nice little piggy bank and it's in no ones interest to see it on it's own four feet.

So only way it could pay off to remove hunger from Africa, is if their shit could be sold for a nice price.

Oh right. Well thank God you explained that one.

Well, I know they don't really car about hunger. But then you have charities and all that shit who'll try their best. And they'll keep on at the Governments to help the world. Like Bono and co.

And sooner or later, when it is more than feasible to sort out the hunger, Governments'll be left with no other choice than to sort things out.

In my opinion anyway.

[Blood]

I think the whole thing is retarded.
I mean, what makes you you isn't in your appearance, it's all of the added experiences that you've had in life.

All she did is preserve 'boogers' shell, it's not him, it will never be him, souly because I'm sure circumstances and environment have changed so there is really no way to get the real "booger" back.

I think the woman in question needs psychiatric help, not the aide of modern science. =/

As for cloning in general i think its a bad idea.
A cool idea, sure, but a bad one none the less.
I don't think that we should even go down that road because if we do pull it off and start creating new bodies to harvest we will have to start thinking about the people we created.

Sure they aren't naturally made but aren't they people none the less? Also what happens if those parts that we would receive end up going seriously wrong and mutate or some shit.

I dunno it just seems like a lot of unnecessary bullshit to get into just so we could live longer.

Also what would that do to the economy? People need to die to make way for upcoming generations.
What, is our idea of a bright future a world with a bunch of rich old farts like Mr. Burns, buying whatever body parts to stay alive? Meanwhile the poor folk that couldn't afford a body transplant just die off? Will they then need to clone people just to produce offspring, or by that time will they have found a way to jump start old peoples withered cocks/wombs?

Like i said, it was a really cool thought but it seems like it would end up harming more than it would help.

Desperate people will do desperate things i guess.

[Celtic Crusher]

I don't think that we should even go down that road because if we do pull it off and start creating new bodies to harvest we will have to start thinking about the people we created.

Sure they aren't naturally made but aren't they people none the less? Also what happens if those parts that we would receive end up going seriously wrong and mutate or some shit.

This is the part that got me too. The man made people would still be people. So maybe they could still clone living things like pets and live stock. But just not people.

[Negativecool]

No government cares about hunger. I used Africa as a example. Africa gets some help from US and EU, and then they owe favors to them, like land or having to put US/EU products on African market. African products can't compete with their prices, so their economy gets even worse. Africa is a nice little piggy bank and it's in no ones interest to see it on it's own four feet.

So only way it could pay off to remove hunger from Africa, is if their shit could be sold for a nice price.

Of the African nations suffering from famine, it has less to do with competition from more developed nations products, and has more to do with the leaders of these nations spending more money on military and defenses to qualm any coup attempts by political rival factions. If they spent as much money as they did on agriculture and infrastructure, there wouldn't be hunger in Africa.

Instead, because there is constant war between factions that just don't want to concede, more money is spent on guns, than food.

[Severina]

Annual inflation in Zimbabwe is estimated between 6-9,000,000% !!!!!! That would mean if it was happening in USA and taking the lowest estimate, 6 million dollars would be worth $1 after a year!

This was one of the richest self-sufficient countries in Africa until Mugabe came ... and who does he blame it on? Yes ... the West!

[KommieKat]

^^^^^
and that's the issue. All you get from clones is identical looking but with empty memories ... and no-one knows how the brain retains them. Even if it were possible when do you transfer the memories ... can't do it when clone is a baby or pre-teen. So, your memories in storage till clone is old enough? ... by then it's got memories of it's own! ... fail!

You and I have gone through this once before.

I predict that within the next 50 years, computers will be developed to contain the complete memories of a human. This persons memories could be downloaded to the computer, the body then cloned, with the memories uploaded to the newer body.

And why not?

[Sex?]

You and I have gone through this once before.

I predict that within the next 50 years, computers will be developed to contain the complete memories of a human. This persons memories could be downloaded to the computer, the body then cloned, with the memories uploaded to the newer body.

And why not?

Cous it will fuck up the world. Technology is evil. I'm serious.

[Celtic Crusher]

And why not?

Because there would be no deaths, which would mean more people, which would mean more births, which would mean more people, which would mean more births, which would mean more people etc. etc.

[KommieKat]

Cous it will fuck up the world. Technology is evil. I'm serious.

Putting a blindfold on to science or silencing it will only bring us back to the Dark Ages.

Science is the key to solving environmental crises, stopping epidemics, better technologies, advancing medicine, security and reducing wealth disparities.

Because there would be no deaths, which would mean more people, which would mean more births, which would mean more people, which would mean more births, which would mean more people etc. etc.

Why would there be more births when you are transferring yourself to a newer body?

[Pinkslit]

Why would there be more births when you are transferring yourself to a newer body?

Because the dirty old geezers getting a new body would impregnate the smelly old ho's with THEIR new bodies and we'd have millions of young geezer/ho's running around.
Unless your plan is to stop all future childbirth.

[Pinkslit]

No one noticed that that the dog looked like her.............

If it's her offspring she has been dabbling in nigga sex.

[KommieKat]

Because the dirty old geezers getting a new body would impregnate the smelly old ho's with THEIR new bodies and we'd have millions of young geezer/ho's running around.
Unless your plan is to stop all future childbirth.

That is a really stupid reply but totally expected and not surprising in the least, coming from you. Is this your way of keeping post count up?

I have no "plan" and I don't think all childbirth will "stop".

The body ages but not the mind unless you are referring to the organic matter of the mind.

Speak some sense for once, girl.

[Pinkslit]

That is a really stupid reply but totally expected and not surprising in the least, coming from you.
Speak some sense for once, girl.

No.

At least we know you will never be cloned for either your fat ugly body parts or your low intelligence.