The Choltizt Plan

[KommieKat]

I got this theory from a book I just finished by Matthew Reilly: Temple
(Bunnee may want to look him up. He's an Austrian author, writing adventures with ancient archeology as a backdrop).

During the German withdrawal of Paris in August of 1944, Commanding General Dietrich Von Choltitz was the General in charge of Paris.
As the Allies were ready to advance into Paris, Hitler ordered General Choltizt to blow Paris up with set charges all over the city.

The General disobeyed the order because he did not want to go down in history as the man who destroyed Paris.

This is all true and can be checked out easily.

The idea to Hitler was that if he couldn't have Paris, no one could.

Now, here is the Plan and I have no idea if it pure fiction or not:

America has nuclear submarines stationed all over the world, strategically placed.
Now, say it Russia or China were to win a war with America, the U.S. would order these submarines to nuke the hell out of those countries, but that's not all. They would also nuke the hell out of major U.S. cities.

The premise is this:
If America cannot have the U.S. then no one can. The U.S. will not live under, say, a Chinese regime so instead, it will nuke the hell out of its own country.

This is a bit disturbing to say the least. If this is true, our government would have control over our destiny. Instead of taking the chance of the Russians or Chinese ruling the country with the most likely chance of insurrection and resistance taking place all over the place, they would rather nuke their own people.

Somehow, this does not surprise me.

[CrAnIuM]

I got this theory

Now, here is the Plan and I have no idea if it pure fiction or not:


Somehow, this does not surprise me.


Since you revel in the fantasy of a US destroyed I would think the "plan" of self destruction would make you nearly orgasmic.

Debunk:

1. US nuclear submarines are NOT in fact "STATIONED" all over the world. The survivability of a nuclear sub is mobility, they do NOT stay in one place very long ... ATTACK subs do that.

2. Contrary to Hollywood and the beliefs of imbecilic flights of fantasies by expatriate mongrels there are NOT enough nuclear warheads on the planet to destroy either the USA or The Soviet Union. Mass destruction, sure, total annihilation .. no.


Communists and Socialist are the real oppressors, not Capitalists. Some day soon I'll explain the distinction to you.

[KommieKat]

Since you revel in the fantasy of a US destroyed I would think the "plan" of self destruction would make you nearly orgasmic.

Debunk:

1. US nuclear submarines are NOT in fact "STATIONED" all over the world. The survivability of a nuclear sub is mobility, they do NOT stay in one place very long ... ATTACK subs do that.

2. Contrary to Hollywood and the beliefs of imbecilic flights of fantasies by expatriate mongrels there are NOT enough nuclear warheads on the planet to destroy either the USA or The Soviet Union. Mass destruction, sure, total annihilation .. no.


Communists and Socialist are the real oppressors, not Capitalists. Some day soon I'll explain the distinction to you.

I never stated that I "revel" in fantasy, though I gave a reasonable theory (Not mine but his, Mathews. You know, the author of the book I stated up above.) worthy of some discussion on your slow moving turtle of a board. Try being happy, not a fucking clown.

It could be fiction. It could be real. Can you prove either way? I thought not.
Did I say I believed it? No.
Did you get the idea that I get orgasmic over total destruction from your own wet dreams, reliving the murders you have committed?

1. Stationed subs can be "stationed" simply by running around in circles or from one near distant point to another, exchanging places with other subs. Or as you said, "not very long" but long enough.

2. Contrary to killers who blanket their guilt of crimes against humanity with cliche expressions like "But, but, I was just protecting your freedom all the way over in Iraq!?", I stated that I did not write the book nor come up with the theory.
The term "nuke the hell" never implied "total annihilation". I'll stick with "mass destruction" as I meant in the the first place.

Seeing a few ninja stars thrown at your new bike tires WOULD give me orgasmies.

Exaggeration and pure fantasy on your part are not your best tools.
Try to stay with what I actually wrote.

[Bunnee]

I don't know if you can read all proper like but I'm AUSTRALIAN not Austrian.

[KommieKat]

I don't know if you can read all proper like but I'm AUSTRALIAN not Austrian.


You mean you weren't a member of Hitlers Youth ?

I say my mistake and forgot to correct. Apologies.

You may or may not want to check out this author. He lives in your part of the world.

[Pinkslit]

You mean you weren't a member of Hitlers Youth ?

I say my mistake and forgot to correct. Apologies.

You may or may not want to check out this author. He lives in your part of the world.

Since when has Austria been in the South Pacific, fool?

[KommieKat]

Since when has Austria been in the South Pacific, fool?

For as long as I admitted I noticed the mistake myself and forgot to fix it, as stated in the Post above yours.

How long have you been blind? Stay on topic, Ms. Mod.

[Pinkslit]

For as long as I admitted I noticed the mistake myself and forgot to fix it, as stated in the Post above yours.

How long have you been blind? Stay on topic, Ms. Mod.

You then went on to say the author lived in her part of the world.
She lives in the South Pacific, double fool.

[KommieKat]

You then went on to say the author lived in her part of the world.
She lives in the South Pacific, double fool.

And so does the author of the book, fucknut.
STFU already.

[Pinkslit]

No

[stopwatch]

I got this theory from a book I just finished by Matthew Reilly: Temple
(Bunnee may want to look him up. He's an Austrian author, writing adventures with ancient archeology as a backdrop).

During the German withdrawal of Paris in August of 1944, Commanding General Dietrich Von Choltitz was the General in charge of Paris.
As the Allies were ready to advance into Paris, Hitler ordered General Choltizt to blow Paris up with set charges all over the city.

The General disobeyed the order because he did not want to go down in history as the man who destroyed Paris.

This is all true and can be checked out easily.

The idea to Hitler was that if he couldn't have Paris, no one could.

Now, here is the Plan and I have no idea if it pure fiction or not:

America has nuclear submarines stationed all over the world, strategically placed.
Now, say it Russia or China were to win a war with America, the U.S. would order these submarines to nuke the hell out of those countries, but that's not all. They would also nuke the hell out of major U.S. cities.

The premise is this:
If America cannot have the U.S. then no one can. The U.S. will not live under, say, a Chinese regime so instead, it will nuke the hell out of its own country.

This is a bit disturbing to say the least. If this is true, our government would have control over our destiny. Instead of taking the chance of the Russians or Chinese ruling the country with the most likely chance of insurrection and resistance taking place all over the place, they would rather nuke their own people.

Somehow, this does not surprise me.

Of course conspiracy theories are always interesting. On many forums, you'll see hundreds of threads dedicated to the speculation about 9-11, the moon landing, WMDs... you name it.

Theories have their place in this country - they keep us critical of our leadership. But there is a point at which it is no longer productive to speculate. I believe this theory falls in that category.

[KommieKat]

I never intended this to be thought of as a conspiracy theory but more like a 'what if' theory and 'how would you feel if' discussion.

As I stated in the first post, it was taken from a book of fiction.

[Sex?]

Dietrich is a fun name to say.
The head guy was grabbing for words about the stationed submarines thing.
I'd like to know his reference about the number of nukes in the world. They really don't seem that complicated to make.

[KommieKat]

Dietrich is a fun name to say.
The head guy was grabbing for words about the stationed submarines thing.
I'd like to know his reference about the number of nukes in the world. They really don't seem that complicated to make.

".........a book I just finished by Matthew Reilly: Temple............"

[Sex?]

".........a book I just finished by Matthew Reilly: Temple............"

Not you, the head guy, cranium. Read dumbass!

[Sex?]

Now why did I just call you a dumbass? I don't think You're a dumbass. It was just expected. I'm disappointed in me. I'm a whore. Fuck me.

[KommieKat]

Not you, the head guy, cranium. Read dumbass!


Now why did I just call you a dumbass? I don't think You're a dumbass. It was just expected. I'm disappointed in me. I'm a whore. Fuck me.


I think in you're own way, this is an apology. Noted.