Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder

[CrAnIuM]

A young Oklahoma mother shot and killed an intruder to protect her 3-month-old baby on New Year's Eve, less than a week after the baby's father died of cancer.


Sarah McKinley says that a week earlier a man named Justin Martin dropped by on the day of her husband's funeral, claiming that he was a neighbor who wanted to say hello. The 18-year-old Oklahoma City area woman did not let him into her home that day.



On New Year's Eve Martin returned with another man, Dustin Stewart, and this time was armed with a 12-inch hunting knife. The two soon began trying to break into McKinley's home.


As one of the men was going from door to door outside her home trying to gain entry, McKinley called 911 and grabbed her 12-gauge shotgun.
McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO that she quickly got her 12 gauge, went into her bedroom and got a pistol, put the bottle in the baby's mouth and called 911.


"I've got two guns in my hand -- is it okay to shoot him if he comes in this door?" the young mother asked the 911 dispatcher. "I'm here by myself with my infant baby, can I please get a dispatcher out here immediately?"


The 911 dispatcher confirmed with McKinley that the doors to her home were locked as she asked again if it was okay to shoot the intruder if he were to come through her door.


"I can't tell you that you can do that but you do what you have to do to protect your baby," the dispatcher told her. McKinley was on the phone with 911 for a total of 21 minutes.


When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife, the teen mom shot and killed the 24-year-old. Police are calling the shooting justified.


"You're allowed to shoot an unauthorized person that is in your home. The law provides you the remedy, and sanctions the use of deadly force," Det. Dan Huff of the Blanchard police said.


Stewart soon turned himself in to police.


McKinley said that she was at home alone with her newborn that night because her husband just died of cancer on Christmas Day.
"I wouldn't have done it, but it was my son," McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO. "It's not an easy decision to make, but it was either going to be him or my son. And it wasn't going to be my son. There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child."



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Aside from the fact that she's probably dumb as a hammer, and a State supported breeder she still did the world a favor of killing a dirtbag.

Unfortunately .. she was pregnant @ ~16 with trailer park white trash baby #1. Most likely she will pop out 4 or 5 more by her 40th (uneducated, unskilled) bday.


And most likely a few of her little bastards will have a life long connection with law enforcement.

Poor + uneducated + white trash teen mom + shitty living conditions = deck stacked against kids.

[CrAnIuM]

McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO. "It's not an easy decision to make, but it was either going to be him or my son. And it wasn't going to be my son. There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child."

I disagree.

There is nothing more dangerous than breeders that think that having a vagina is the only license needed to pop out kids.

[KommieKat]

I think you're sore because you didn't get to shoot the punk yourself, but, I agree with all you said.
You're my hero.

[CrAnIuM]

I think you're sore because you didn't get to shoot the punk yourself,

I would have called 911 after D-bag #1 AND #2 stopped breathing.

[Dirty Hippie]

"It's not an easy decision to make, but it was either going to be him or my son.

We'll never truly know the outcome had she not shot him, but I strongly disagree with this statement. Most likely these men just saw a girl home alone and decided she was easy pickings for a burglary, with no intention of any violence, especially towards a baby. With that being said, I have very little sympathy for criminals and I think he had it coming, I just think it's wrong to assume they were busting in to kill her baby.

[Mamba]

with no intention of any violence

Um...
returned with another man, Dustin Stewart, and this time was armed with a 12-inch hunting knife. The two soon began trying to break into McKinley's home.


When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife

Say what?

[Zeabot]

Cranium, you sourpuss. How do you pull out a statement about white trash baby makers from this story?

Anyhoo, I think it is great she shot the fuck. There is far too much coddling going on in this country right now -- so much so it extends to criminals. You want to show up to my home with a knife? Great, I have a gun and now you are dead.

[Firestorm]

I would have called 911 after D-bag #1 AND #2 stopped breathing.

Yeah, what he said. Two dead dirt bags always beats just one.

[CrAnIuM]

How do you pull out a statement about white trash baby makers from this story?

That's how I roll !!!


And another thing I noticed she was shacked up with an old dude !!


Her old ass (now dead) baby daddy :

http://swollencranium.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2898&d=1325712874




Pimp ass painter Bob Ross ...



http://swollencranium.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2897&d=1325712739




Hmmmmm ...

[Absinthe]

Sarah McKinley says that a week earlier a man named Justin Martin dropped by on the day of her husband's funeral, claiming that he was a neighbor who wanted to say hello.

That's why you should know your neighbors. But who really does this these days?


On New Year's Eve Martin returned with another man,

So the first visit was just to have a look around, I guess. They probably read the obituaries in the local newspaper and thought this is a smart way to find places they can break into.

[CrAnIuM]

So the first visit was just to have a look around, I guess.

Yes.

And that is why one never allows an unknown in to their home, INCLUDING a police officer or any other authority figure that is not on official business.

Plus .. having a home with no foyer is retarded. ( and even a type of Sally Port if you can design it in to your driveway )

[Absinthe]

having a home with no foyer is retarded

Still, the majority of houses in the US are designed like that...

[CrAnIuM]

Still, the majority of houses in the US are designed like that...

You and I have done little more than talk houses for the last month.

You know that 75 years ago the homes in the US switched from individual creations to cookie cutter type boxes that all look alike.

And ~30 years ago homes started being built with materials that can not possible last for the life span of a typical resident.

Disposable homes = bullshit and I'll have no of it on our next place.

[KommieKat]

ou know that 75 years ago the homes in the US switched from individual creations to cookie cutter type boxes that all look alike.

You do know that pre-fab housing started in L.A., for WW2 veterans. The U.S. gov assistance programs for those programs was to provide affordable housing.
You can still find lots of old old beautiful Italian designed homes in Los Angeles. Unfortunately, they are taken up by gang bangers in S.E. L.A.



Disposable homes = bullshit and I'll have no of it on our next place.

I guess you better not make yours out of cookies and candy, Hans. Yours will be disposed of within days.

[surgicalstrike]

She better not get in trouble for killing scum breaking into her place when cops can kill a woman who refuses to drop a hammer...

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-rosemead-deputies-shoot-woman-with-hammer,0,5135257.story

[surgicalstrike]

I just think it's wrong to assume they were busting in to kill her baby

I strongly disagree with this statement

I think it's wrong to allow dipshits like yourself to consume oxygen.



And another thing I noticed she was shacked up with an old dude !!

Dude had cancer..don't wanna go out bangin old muff.

[Firestorm]

I just think it's wrong to assume they were busting in to kill her baby

Ok. It's just this simple. I have kids. You break into my home with a knife, I don't give a damn what your intentions are or not, I'm going to kill your ass. Stupid people do dumb shit every day and get themselves killed trying to determine an intruders intent. Intent makes no difference, he entered a locked building with a weapon.

[CrAnIuM]

Ok. It's just this simple.


I don't like talking about all my 'security" but;

I have 3 zones around my home and zone 1 is a kill zone.


IF a bad guy gets into zone one without me knowing it ( almost impossible with 5 dogs and other ..stuff) then I AUTOMATICALLY assume he is there for nefarious reasons and WILL be met with deadly force. All the adults of my home know this, even temporary guests.

[KommieKat]

Ok. It's just this simple. I have kids. You break into my home with a knife, I don't give a damn what your intentions are or not, I'm going to kill your ass. Stupid people do dumb shit every day and get themselves killed trying to determine an intruders intent. Intent makes no difference, he entered a locked building with a weapon.


There was also that awful incident I remember with the Japanese home stay student in, I think, Louisiana, who was shot dead because he went to the wrong house for a party, wearing a Halloween outfit, because it was Halloween, with NO INTENT to steal nor rob.

People were outraged, including myself back then. Sorry, but this type of thinking you expressed can go a bit too far. Hopefully the home homeowner will be able to judge the circumstances properly and not make it a sad sad ending like this one.

I personally myself wouldn't mind walking on her property now and smacking her up the head a few times for doing such a stupid thing. Seems people are looking for an excuse to use their gun on someone just for the justification of having one.

[Josie]

I personally myself wouldn't mind walking on her property now and smacking her up the head a few times for doing such a stupid thing.

Dude cased the joint: Someone she didn't know knew of her circumstances and came to her home.

He came back with help - and with a weapon.

And broke in.

Why is defending yourself/your family stupid?

[CrAnIuM]

Seems people are looking for an excuse to use their gun on someone just for the justification of having one.

Knock on my door and you'll be greeted with a 'hello' and an inquiry about your business there.

Kick ( attempt to kick ) my door down and you'll be met by the ferryman asking for payment.

The kid in the article did the right thing, she was armed, and she refused to be a victim, AND she obviously preferred that a cop come there and do the killing rather than she. The dirtbags removed ALL of her options and then she removed his ability to breath and continue his life of crime.

And .. as a nice ending to this merry story; Getting hit with buckshot at that range creates a devastating wound. The dude that ran away most likely was wiping pieces of his dead buddy off as he ran. ( The story did not say so I'm assuming it was buck)


And yes, some people are looking for excuses to use their weapons, they are called criminals.

[KommieKat]

Why is defending yourself/your family stupid?

Please show me where I typed this?

[Zeabot]

smacking her up the head a few times for doing such a stupid thing.
Not trying to fight anyone's battles... maybe you can clarify that?

[KommieKat]

maybe you can clarify that?

It was stupid and completely irresponsible of to shot and kill a 17 year old Japanese foreign student who shows up at your door on Halloween, for a Halloween party in costume.

He simple went to the wrong address. The woman should die.

[Firestorm]

It was stupid and completely irresponsible of to shot and kill a 17 year old Japanese foreign student who shows up at your door on Halloween, for a Halloween party in costume.

He simple went to the wrong address. The woman should die.

There is a huge difference though between your example of a mistake and of the idiot who broke into this woman's home with a knife. I agree that if someone is blown away over something as stupid as stopping at the wrong address then the shooter needs to be strung up as a warning to the next idiot.

[Zeabot]

Oooh, Kommie. I thought you were still talking about this Oklahoma woman when you said that. Yeah, that is fucked up.

[Absinthe]

There is a huge difference though between your example of a mistake and of the idiot who broke into this woman's home with a knife. I agree that if someone is blown away over something as stupid as stopping at the wrong address then the shooter needs to be strung up as a warning to the next idiot.

Agreed. I looked up the shooting in Louisiana and I really think you can't compare these two incidences. The woman in OK was inside of her house, on the phone with the cops. The guy in LA walked out and shot the kid. I read that his wife freaked out and told him to get the gun because she thought they were going to get robbed. But if what I read is correct, the student and his friend were actually walking away from the place. The guy in OK actually broke into the house and kicked in her door. Two totally different cookies. Totally.

[CrAnIuM]

Totally.

Totally dude.

[surgicalstrike]

The guy in LA walked out and shot the kid

Stupid little Asian fuck probably rattled off some alien speak at his door. Another slope down equals no big deal. :)

[Negativecool]

Legal to shoot and fair game to be shot are two different things?

[KommieKat]

Totally.

Not actually, no. The relation is gun ownership and the mentality that pretty much goes with it.
Something like this:
"Any motherfucker who steps on my land without an invite will get their faces blown off."

And DON'T tell me you haven't heard it like that, because you have.
So yes, different stories, but a similarity in gun ownership mental-ness.

I mean what gun owner does NOT want to have or make a justified reason to use their gun on someone? Name me one person.

[Absinthe]

....


The point I was trying to make was that in the OK case the guy came into the house with the intent to hurt the woman. Why did he bring a knife if that was not on his mind? Does she not have the right to defend herself? Should she just have stood there and let him stab her or worse? Since when does the criminal have more rights than the victim?

The LA case just sucks. When I looked it up after you mentioned it, I thought WTF? They decorated their house for Halloween, two kids show up in costumes and walk away after no one answers the door. Some common sense will tell you that they were most likely looking for a Halloween Party and went to the wrong house. I didn't get why the husband even stepped out and stopped them. They were walking away. These two people were idiots and deserved to be punished. What happened was just wrong.

The OK mother on the other hand defended herself. Would you not do the same? Would you not defend yourself and your family if someone breaks into your house and comes after you with a weapon?

That's why I am saying these two cases are totally different. One was self defense, one was plain stupidity.

Not all gun owners are ready-to-shoot-maniacs. My Dad had a rifle for many many years. It was in a secure place that we kids couldn't get to. I can guarantee you he was not looking for a reason to use it and was not sitting by the front door waiting for somebody he could shoot.

[Firestorm]

It was in a secure place that we kids couldn't get to.

This is a whole other argument, lol. My kids all know what guns are and what they are for. My youngest, she's 7, just completed a hunter safety course. I've taught my children that my guns are no different than my power saw in the shop, not a toy and not something you play around with. I'm not a fan of locking up a self defense weapon because there are kids in the home, after all, its not going to help them much if dad is out in the south 40 when some intruder comes barging into the house.

Just sayin'

[CrAnIuM]

This is a whole other argument, lol

We've had that discussion. She understands.

[KommieKat]

Just sayin'

Totally dude.

You two goo'ol buddies should consider ge'in together and hun'en some possum an'd squirrels.

[CrAnIuM]

You two goo'ol buddies should consider ge'in together and hun'en some possum an'd squirrels.

I can't speak for him but in my case I REFUSE to be a victim.

See ---> HERE (http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8483833)


Luckily the home owner in this case left his gun out and had two TEEN aged kids that were capable of keeping themselves alive until police arrived to take over.


In the linked incident, a home invasion done by up to FIVE career criminals, the two teens, 14 and 17, used deadly force to protect themselves. A gun is the ultimate equalizer, it makes a 98 pound teen the match for the worlds strongest crack head and his 4 comrades.

In trained hands a home defending citizen can effectively ward off and kill a half dozen intruders.

Take a tour of youtube, type in "home invasion" and see the carnage that results. You'll also see that thugs hunt in groups and rarely go in unarmed. Tell me that you would want to be in your home and under siege without a firearm. <---- Bullshit.



By the way ... follow up to the above link is --->HERE (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/10578456/). This link identifies the correct # of dirt bags. 1 dead criminal and 4 living career criminals. arrest records show that B&E is a favorite of the group.

The world is a cesspool, and I intend to die old and crotchety not at the hands of some skinny thug looking for a weak target. Also, I'm confident in my ability to fight one, maybe two simultaneous unarmed dudes, but no one can reasonably fight five, not unarmed. With a weapon I'd put my chances of fighting 5 unarmed dudes at VERY high on the possible scale and even higher if it is in my home and the lights are out.


* Note: when I say 'unarmed" I mean with out a firearm.


Bottom line:

Nefarious Dudes that get killed kicking in doors or climbing through windows in an invasion attempt deserve nothing less.








Additional note:

The first video shows the type of door that was being reinstalled on the home.

Don't want to kill a home invader? Want to call the cops instead? That's all fine with me but how long does it take a squad car to get to your home .. 5 minutes in you are in a well patrolled area perhaps? Hell, here in rural Johnston county I was quoted up to 15 minutes.

While you are on YouTube looking at home invasion vids ( there are lots ) take a look for police entry techniques and security doors.


Glass doors and no weapon? Ok guy ..yeah.