Attn: funnee

[KommieKat]

:DNH:

Hi funnee,

Could you give some details about your dieting?

I am a 2-times a day eater. Seems logical that if you eat less, your cells will start working on the body fat for energy.

I eat a traditional Chinese breakfest, lots of fruit for lunch and lesser quantity of food for dinner.

Chicken or seafoods. Very little red meat.
Whole grain bread, muesli, yoghurt's, skim milk.
No preservatives or junk foods of any kind.

Water, wine, tea, coffee.

Excercise:
Walk a few kilometers twice a week, gym for anaerobic exercise and weights.
No more driving for me, so lots of inner city walking.


Give me specifics if you can. Thanks.

[Titty]

2 times a day stifles your metabolism. Instead of burning stored fat for energy, the body is forced to conserve what it keeps in reserve as a survival mechanism by slowing down the metabolic rate. Smaller, more frequent meals are much more beneficial.

[Bunnee]

2 times a day stifles your metabolism. Instead of burning stored fat for energy, the body is forced to conserve what it keeps in reserve as a survival mechanism by slowing down the metabolic rate. Smaller, more frequent meals are much more beneficial.


This is true.

Also, its better to eat wholegrains and fruits for dinner/supper/tea (whatever you call it) and have a hot breakfast instead.

You do more in the mornings than at night, your body processes the hot meal faster, and better than it would if eaten at night.

[Josie]

Also, its better to eat wholegrains and fruits for dinner and have a hot breakfast instead.

Huh, I didn't know that. Interesting. Sort of off-topic: we took your advice to buy bakery breads instead of the packaged and shipped stuff... it does seem to be helping. Thanks :)

[Bunnee]

Huh, I didn't know that. Interesting. Sort of off-topic: we took your advice to buy bakery breads instead of the packaged and shipped stuff... it does seem to be helping. Thanks :)


Yeah, it is interesting. It's got something to do with your metabolism *shrug* I don't know much about it though.

You're welcome Josie. Its basically the preservative innit that makes teh kiddies go crazy. I'm glad I could do something to help :)

[KommieKat]

2 times a day stifles your metabolism. Instead of burning stored fat for energy, the body is forced to conserve what it keeps in reserve as a survival mechanism by slowing down the metabolic rate. Smaller, more frequent meals are much more beneficial.

OK, I think I am getting the picture now. This metabolism "mechanism" has me confused at times.

It seems logical that the less you put in, the less fat you will have stored.

Let's take an extreme example:
Concentration victims. They were walking skeletons.
I would imagine this is the case because there was a complete utter absence of food?

Lastly, I live in a Tropical zone so therefore my body feels more sluggish.
The "Mexican Time" way of life is true for people living in these climates and I have a feeling it's not so good for the metabolism of caucasians.

[Negativecool]

Is weight loss really such a mystery to people?

Caloric expenditure - Caloric intake = Either a positive or negative number.

If you're burning more calories than you are taking in, you CAN'T gain weight. It's impossible.

My (professional) opinion that nobody asked for but I'll give you anyway? Work out. It's the easiest way not to have to worry so much about what you're eating. You can pretty much eat whatever you want (within reason) and still lose weight. Building muscle also greatly increases your metabolism.
That's why they say on the infomercials to "build lean muscle" - They are talking about building muscle...(Which is sort of misleading...I mean you can't build fat muscle, it's just muscle which is lean tissue.)

If you're not exercising at all and just dieting, your metabolism will eventually respond and adapt. Any initial weight loss gains will stop. You need to exercise. The American Heart Association recommends at least 60 minutes of moderate to vigorous physical activity A DAY. Walk a mile = 100 calories.
A pound of fat = 3,500 calories. So say you're daily caloric intake is around 2,500. Cut it down to 2,000 a day, and by the end of the week, you just lost yourself a pound of fat!

Get to it!
Calories OUT - Calories IN = Gain or lose weight

[KommieKat]

Get to it!
Calories OUT - Calories IN = Gain or lose weight

OK, that was a good post. Thanks.

[DaKine]

OK, I think I am getting the picture now. This metabolism "mechanism" has me confused at times.

It seems logical that the less you put in, the less fat you will have stored.

Let's take an extreme example:
Concentration victims. They were walking skeletons.
I would imagine this is the case because there was a complete utter absence of food?

Lastly, I live in a Tropical zone so therefore my body feels more sluggish.
The "Mexican Time" way of life is true for people living in these climates and I have a feeling it's not so good for the metabolism of caucasians.



Wow how fat did ya get buddha?

[Shade]

Is weight loss really such a mystery to people?

Caloric expenditure - Caloric intake = Either a positive or negative number.

If you're burning more calories than you are taking in, you CAN'T gain weight. It's impossible.

My (professional) opinion that nobody asked for but I'll give you anyway? Work out. It's the easiest way not to have to worry so much about what you're eating. You can pretty much eat whatever you want (within reason) and still lose weight. Building muscle also greatly increases your metabolism.
That's why they say on the infomercials to "build lean muscle" - They are talking about building muscle...(Which is sort of misleading...I mean you can't build fat muscle, it's just muscle which is lean tissue.)

If you're not exercising at all and just dieting, your metabolism will eventually respond and adapt. Any initial weight loss gains will stop. You need to exercise. The American Heart Association recommends at least 60 minutes of moderate to vigorous physical activity A DAY. Walk a mile = 100 calories.
A pound of fat = 3,500 calories. So say you're daily caloric intake is around 2,500. Cut it down to 2,000 a day, and by the end of the week, you just lost yourself a pound of fat!

Get to it!
Calories OUT - Calories IN = Gain or lose weight

If its a simple fact of cutting calories, why do sumo wrestlers get big after only eating a few bowls of rice? Part of there training is to eat, then sleep right away. Your body doesn't digest food the same way when your asleep. Sumo wrestling involves alot of moving around from what i've seen on tv. I'm sure they burn the rice calories off.

[Jenn]

:DNH:

Hi funnee,

Could you give some details about your dieting?

I am a 2-times a day eater. Seems logical that if you eat less, your cells will start working on the body fat for energy.

I eat a traditional Chinese breakfest, lots of fruit for lunch and lesser quantity of food for dinner.

Chicken or seafoods. Very little red meat.
Whole grain bread, muesli, yoghurt's, skim milk.
No preservatives or junk foods of any kind.

Water, wine, tea, coffee.

Excercise:
Walk a few kilometers twice a week, gym for anaerobic exercise and weights.
No more driving for me, so lots of inner city walking.


Give me specifics if you can. Thanks.


I know this isnt directed towards me, but everyones body is different. I cant lose weight just dieting. Dieting doesnt do jack shit for me, i have to really work out. I do curves 5 days a week, and its a mile away from my house so I walk there and back every day, and then my exercise bike an hour a day, but ive been slacking and only doing it once a week. And its not so much the weight, because i lose slowely, ive lost more inches than I have lbs, and ive burnt away a lot of body fat and gained muscle.

But I dont calorie count anymore. I just eat six small meals a day and TRY to drink as much water as I can, which isnt much because i find water to be disgusting.

People think when they lose weight fast by dieting or even the bad ways to lose weight, that theyre going to be okay. Nope. The faster the lbs drop, the faster they come right back. Losing 1-2 lbs a week is healthy.

[Jenn]

Is weight loss really such a mystery to people?

Caloric expenditure - Caloric intake = Either a positive or negative number.

If you're burning more calories than you are taking in, you CAN'T gain weight. It's impossible.

My (professional) opinion that nobody asked for but I'll give you anyway? Work out. It's the easiest way not to have to worry so much about what you're eating. You can pretty much eat whatever you want (within reason) and still lose weight. Building muscle also greatly increases your metabolism.
That's why they say on the infomercials to "build lean muscle" - They are talking about building muscle...(Which is sort of misleading...I mean you can't build fat muscle, it's just muscle which is lean tissue.)

If you're not exercising at all and just dieting, your metabolism will eventually respond and adapt. Any initial weight loss gains will stop. You need to exercise. The American Heart Association recommends at least 60 minutes of moderate to vigorous physical activity A DAY. Walk a mile = 100 calories.
A pound of fat = 3,500 calories. So say you're daily caloric intake is around 2,500. Cut it down to 2,000 a day, and by the end of the week, you just lost yourself a pound of fat!

Get to it!
Calories OUT - Calories IN = Gain or lose weight

Very good post!

People always tend to think that just diet is going to work. And what gets me is all of these people who say, "I'll only eat one meal a day, and Ill lose weight." It doesnt work like that! You have to take in calories to burn them.

You know I recently learned that there are people doing this lemon juice diet? They drink lemon juice in the mornings, warm salt water and then at night a tea with a natural laxative in it. And they do this for like 10 days! If you want to do it to detox to get rid of all that nasty shit in your body, fine, but do it for the right reason, not to lose weight! Or when people take laxatives... its like they dont realize that if taken long enough, your body gets used to them and you cant go anymore without the fucking things.

Its all about exercise and proper eating people!

[KommieKat]

Wow how fat did ya get buddha?

To answer your question, I gained 8 kilos from my idea weight of 72 kilos.
That's an idea waist of 34in, now being 36 in.

72 kilos with a 34 waist was a norm up until a year ago when I moved here and became passive and ate more of the Chinese delicacies.

[Titty]

OK, I think I am getting the picture now. This metabolism "mechanism" has me confused at times.

It seems logical that the less you put in, the less fat you will have stored.

Let's take an extreme example:
Concentration victims. They were walking skeletons.
I would imagine this is the case because there was a complete utter absence of food?

Lastly, I live in a Tropical zone so therefore my body feels more sluggish.
The "Mexican Time" way of life is true for people living in these climates and I have a feeling it's not so good for the metabolism of caucasians.

While it is true, as negativecool stated, a caloric deficit is the key to weight loss, the body needs to see sustenance in a consistent manner to enable it to be properly processed. The body responds to infrequent and inconsistent feedings by slowing the metabolic process to make sure its resources are not wasted, while also first sacrificing skeletal muscle for fuel rather than body fat. It's why exercise is especially important to any weight loss regimen. You'll notice victims of starvation will exhibit very little muscle tone, yet may still show signs of excess body fat. That is until the absence of all nutrition finally cannibalizes what stores remained.

The sluggishness is a typical result of infrequent eating. Larger meals are more difficult to digest, and therefore force the body to commit more energy into doing so. Again, regulating your dietary and exercise schedules will remedy this.

As for working out as a means of regulating weight- this is thoroughly impractical for 99% of the human population. The muscle mass necessary to offset caloric surpluses is such that the average person would find it unattainable. A middle aged person would have a very difficult time achieving--not to mention maintaining--substantial muscular gains. While exercise is essential to preserving muscle during weight loss, most people cannot and will not lift weights at the intensity and interval required to enable such effects.


Buddha- you seem like a disciplined person. Portion your meals appropriately over the course of the day, aided by intervals of physical activity, and you'll see consistent, lasting results.

Diets don't work. Changes in lifestyle do. Funnee is a perfect example of this.

[KommieKat]

Buddha- you seem like a disciplined person. Portion your meals appropriately over the course of the day, aided by intervals of physical activity, and you'll see consistent, lasting results.

Diets don't work. Changes in lifestyle do. Funnee is a perfect example of this.

You know, it's times like this that I have the most respect for you.
Your replies to serious matters are always more than accurate and right on the spot.

I just need to find out how to properly portion out 5 meals between waking and sleeping.

I do about 20 mins of cardio before lifting the weights.
I try to maintain a consistency with that for now or until !BEACH SEASON!

[Negativecool]

As for working out as a means of regulating weight- this is thoroughly impractical for 99% of the human population. The muscle mass necessary to offset caloric surpluses is such that the average person would find it unattainable. A middle aged person would have a very difficult time achieving--not to mention maintaining--substantial muscular gains. While exercise is essential to preserving muscle during weight loss, most people cannot and will not lift weights at the intensity and interval required to enable such effects.

Good points in your post, especially that last part. However, this point ^^^ isn't necessarily true. You would be surprised how little it takes for the average, untrained, couch potato to gain any amount of muscle mass. Now contrast that with a highly trained athlete, or someone who works out every day, then you have a valid point about how much diligence it takes to make gains.

Muscle atrophy begins at 72 hours. So this means you could work on muscle strength every three days and still maintain your gains. I think (I would hope) there is sufficient enough time in between workouts for it not to be that much of an issue in people's schedules.

As long as your goals are realistic then it really isn't that hard. As evident by the exercises we make 80 year old osteoporotic women do to build strength in their lower extremities---march in place on a foam mat for 30 seconds. Such a simple exercise is challenging enough to build enough muscle in the legs to help stress and thus build bone in the lower extremities.

The least stressful way I would do it is do a circuit training regimen every three days while doing some kind of cardio on most days of the week. Not to difficult? Or do I have too much faith in the sedentary?

[badutahboy]

I must have missed out on Funnee's weight loss... Post up some pics! (I didn't see any in the members pics thread, but I blasted through it at record speed).


My only question is for bunnee... will you give further explanationa bout your first post in this thread?

I have always been told that by dinnertime you should be slowing down on the carbs and eating more protein, because protein helps repair muscle tissue (fixing whatever damage you did during the day) as well as digesting slower than carbs (so you don't wake up starving at 3am or needing to go to the crapper)...

I've also always heard that carbs are good for breakfast, specifically fruit, because they help to give you a quick energy boost, and they help to spark your metabolism early in the AM.

your info is in direct contradiction to that.. was wondering if you could back it up or give some explanation?

[badutahboy]

You know, it's times like this that I have the most respect for you.
Your replies to serious matters are always more than accurate and right on the spot.

I just need to find out how to properly portion out 5 meals between waking and sleeping.

I do about 20 mins of cardio before lifting the weights.
I try to maintain a consistency with that for now or until !BEACH SEASON!

Stretching out meals into 5 eating times is really tough at first, especially if you don't have an established daily routine... When I worked a 9-5 job, I was really good at it.. eat breakfast before leaving, a snack on my morning break, a healthy lunch, another snack on afternoon break, dinner at home, and usually a snack of Cottage cheese or Tuna (proteins) right before bed.

Now, I suck at it. My schedule is different everyday, and I'm not naturally hungry 5 times a day...

Good luck with getting on schedule.. It's tough, but you'll definitely see results. Last time I did it,I lost 15 pounds in 2 months with no real changes to my exercise routine, etc.


As for your exercising, you should try to up your cardio from 20 minutes to 45 minutes.... or start interval training.. most folks agree that 20 minutes of cardio doesn't do a lot in terms of fat burning, unless you're really getting your heart racing for a good part of that 20 minutes by doing intervals.. Even with intervals, most people recommend 30 minutes of exercise with 3 minute interval cycles... (Run your ass off for 1 minute, then cool down for 2, repeat 10 times...)

[KommieKat]

Good luck with getting on schedule.. It's tough, but you'll definitely see results. Last time I did it,I lost 15 pounds in 2 months with no real changes to my exercise routine, etc.


As for your exercising, you should try to up your cardio from 20 minutes to 45 minutes.... or start interval training.. most folks agree that 20 minutes of cardio doesn't do a lot in terms of fat burning, unless you're really getting your heart racing for a good part of that 20 minutes by doing intervals.. Even with intervals, most people recommend 30 minutes of exercise with 3 minute interval cycles... (Run your ass off for 1 minute, then cool down for 2, repeat 10 times...)


Thanks for your post.
I'll give it a try on the schedule thingy.
My wife will not eat after the evening workout and says not to eat 3 hours before bedtime.

I do cardio 3 times a week at 20 to 30 mins peaking about 80 to 100% of my THR goal of about 120.

[KommieKat]

Why is it that Marathon runners have very little muscle mass as opposed to Sprinters that have nothing but lean muscle and no fat?

How's the metabolism working in these cases?

[Josie]

Why is it that Marathon runners have very little muscle mass

They need endurance, not speed. Their muscles need to be able to process out toxins quickly to maintain stamina.



as opposed to Sprinters that have nothing but lean muscle and no fat?

How's the metabolism working in these cases?

They need HUGE bursts of energy for short periods. Their muscles can recover afterward, not during.

_________

That was my problem as a runner. My legs are naturally quite large (muscle mass AND fat)... so sprinting was really easy and felt SO DAMN GOOD... but I needed to be jogging at one pace for an extended period of time and distance.

That killed me. Ugh. I don't look forward to retraining myself to do that after having this kid.

[Bunnee]

I'd love to. But as I told Josie, I don't really know much about it.

Sorry.

[Shade]

Diets don't work. Changes in lifestyle do. Funnee is a perfect example of this.

Yea, i think thats really the key. A funny fact, part of bruce lee's training, and i'm completely serious, was when he parked in a parking lot, he would park as far away in that parking lot. I once looked at a calorie burning thingy, and it's kinda crazy the calories you burn from just litterly doing nothing.

I'm not sure if it works like i think it does, but my thoughts are simply getting up every time you need something, parking farther away, walking to the corner store each day for one item instead of buying a weeks worth, all those things don't mean shit calore wise, but if you add them up it's alot. Mainly because for 1 hour you can burn like 1750 calories sprinting, where sitting around doing nothing is like 500 or 700. It makes me think that an hour of excersize a day isnt as effecient as gettng up, walking around your living room 20-30 times a day, or the equivalent in little extra things. I got nothng to back this up, but it seems about right.

[KommieKat]

A pound of fat = 3,500 calories.

OK, let me see if I got this correct.

The energy needed to increase the temperature of a gram of water by 1 degree Celsius is equal to 1 Joule.

1 Thermochemical calorie = 4.184 Joule

The energy required to lift a small apple one metre straight up = 1 Joule.

So, 3500 calories / 4.184 = 836.52007.

Therefore, I will need to lift an apple approximately 837 times to burn 1 pound of fat, correct?

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[mcsmc]

Yea, i think thats really the key. A funny fact, part of bruce lee's training, and i'm completely serious, was when he parked in a parking lot, he would park as far away in that parking lot. I once looked at a calorie burning thingy, and it's kinda crazy the calories you burn from just litterly doing nothing.

I'm not sure if it works like i think it does, but my thoughts are simply getting up every time you need something, parking farther away, walking to the corner store each day for one item instead of buying a weeks worth, all those things don't mean shit calore wise, but if you add them up it's alot. Mainly because for 1 hour you can burn like 1750 calories sprinting, where sitting around doing nothing is like 500 or 700. It makes me think that an hour of excersize a day isnt as effecient as gettng up, walking around your living room 20-30 times a day, or the equivalent in little extra things. I got nothng to back this up, but it seems about right.

And you wonder why you're a fat pig... because you're wrong. Intense exercise affects your body completely differently than getting up to refill your cheesy nachos dish as many times as you empty it.

[KommieKat]

And you wonder why you're a fat pig... because you're wrong. Intense exercise affects your body completely differently than getting up to refill your cheesy nachos dish as many times as you empty it.


Wrong. I'm not a fat big.
I've just shown through an equation the importance of exercise. Where was I wrong?

I don't eat nachos. That's an American thing.

[Negativecool]

OK, let me see if I got this correct.

The energy needed to increase the temperature of a gram of water by 1 degree Celsius is equal to 1 Joule.

1 Thermochemical calorie = 4.184 Joule

The energy required to lift a small apple one metre straight up = 1 Joule.

So, 3500 calories / 4.184 = 836.52007.

Therefore, I will need to lift an apple approximately 837 times to burn 1 pound of fat, correct?

Jesus...

NO!

Here's another fun little tidbit of information for you. Ya know those Nutrition labels they have on food? Ya know the part that says Calories? That ALWAYS refers to Kilocalories, not calories. It's sort of misleading to the general public.
So a kilocalorie is the amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 liter of water by 1 degree Celsius.

Think about it. I just posted that walking 1 mile will burn you around 100 calories. So why, for fucks sake, would you think you can burn 3,500 calories by lifting an apple 837 times?

You wanna recalculate spanky?

[Josie]

Wrong. I'm not a fat big.
I've just shown through an equation the importance of exercise. Where was I wrong?

I don't eat nachos. That's an American thing.

I don't think that post was directed at you.

[KommieKat]

I don't think that post was directed at you.

Whoops. I even said "fat big". Hehe!

[badutahboy]

Jesus...

NO!

Here's another fun little tidbit of information for you. Ya know those Nutrition labels they have on food? Ya know the part that says Calories? That ALWAYS refers to Kilocalories, not calories. It's sort of misleading to the general public.
So a kilocalorie is the amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 liter of water by 1 degree Celsius.

Think about it. I just posted that walking 1 mile will burn you around 100 calories. So why, for fucks sake, would you think you can burn 3,500 calories by lifting an apple 837 times?

You wanna recalculate spanky?


I'm REALLY hoping he was being sarcastic...

[KommieKat]

I'm REALLY hoping he was being sarcastic...

I was. Is it not obvious enough for some folks?

[badutahboy]

I was. Is it not obvious enough for some folks?

It seemed reasonably obvious to me... I seriously question your logic at times, but there are a very few people on this (and other) forums who are actually stupid enough to buy into the fallacy you posted... and I was pretty sure you weren't one of them.

[Negativecool]

I was. Is it not obvious enough for some folks?

My bad...:yociexp100:

Let me know what those 837 apple curls do for your man figure.

:yociexp38:

[funeeman]

Sorry buddha. . .I was in Mexico and just got home.

Titty has hit most of the info on the head. You need to eat smaller meals more often so the body can burn them. You need to need to make sure you eat enough in a day so your metabolism burns your food and stored fat instead of saving it as additional fat. Negitive is correct that if you have a caloric deficiency you will usually lose weight but do not make it less than 20% of your caloric body requirements or everything you eat is stored as fat. That also goes back to eating more than less to burn fat. If you want to exercise correctly figure out your maximum heart rate and exercise at 55-65% of that maximum rate (your target rate) for 45 minutes a day. Walking is best for this. If you go over that rate the body burns muscle first because its easier to break down than fat and the body says I need immediate energy which will cause it to skip fat burning and burn your muscle up. That will accelerate your metabolism although it is possible to drop weight just by eating correctly. When you lose fat you actually lose it from the inside out so it leaves the muscles (giving you lean muscle) the organs and then your belly and storage areas. That's why you may lose inches rather than weight often times. I think I'd lost like 4 ft 10 inches around my body.

Each person's metabolism reacts to foods differently as a result what you eat and when you eat it will vary by that person. Big fatty dudes like myself need to eat cabs and protein for breakfast, fruit and protein for snack, protein veggies and carb for lunch, protein and fruit for snack, protein veggie and carb for supper and protein and fruit for snack in the evening. You're body might be slightly different and you'd need fruit and carb for your snacks. Carbs are essential for weigh loss...if you cut them out you'll store them as fat when your body finally gets them. Make sure they are complex carbs like potatoes, rice, oats, etc. The body will take longer to break them down and they won't turn to sugar as fast so the body will burn fat instead to get its source of fuel.

If you really want to lose you need to eat as clean as you can. I mean lean meats, complex carbs, good fruits high in antioxidants like berries (no oranges, watermelons or grapes), no added salt or salt substitutes, oils, or butter (they'll slow things down), no dairy and switch from sugar to splenda, equal or sugar twin sugar substitutes. Also drink 3 liters of water a day to flush fat, food additive and other shit in the foods away. (your body gets used to this after about 5 days and you stop pissing every 15 minutes) After you're at your goal weight then you can add things back and maintain your weight very easily.

For example. . I was in Mexico all this past week. I could eat clean nor did I try and I ate all kinds of shit that would have added weight to me. I got home and was 7 lbs heavier. . .one day of flushing the salt and crap out of my body and I was the exact same weight as when I left. I gained zero lbs. To actually gain that kind of weight I would have had to have eaten 3500 calories per pound more than what I used in a day. So I knew it was impossible that I had gained fat. . I was just holding water and chemicals all which left my body quickly. My body maintained my weight easily. Had I stayed clean I would have probably lost about 4 lbs last week. I'll be 185 lbs by July 4th and I think that's where I'll stay for now. I'll tone up as my skin is tightening where I was fatter and maybe add some muscle weight. . we'll see about that. I think Neg mentioned that muscle takes more calories to maintain. . so the upside would be I could eat even more food to maintain that muscle. .I'm just not sure if I can stand to eat that much more.

[badutahboy]

That's really interesting funee...

Do you keep a fitday journal or anything? I'd love to see a daily meal plan for you.

[KommieKat]

That's really interesting funee...

Do you keep a fitday journal or anything? I'd love to see a daily meal plan for you.


Yeah, what he said, funnee. I would like to see more specifics for the daily eating. Thanks and congrats again!

[funeeman]

That's really interesting funee...

Do you keep a fitday journal or anything? I'd love to see a daily meal plan for you.

My usual day of food is something like this.

Either 4 egg whites or 4 oz of chicken (1 breast) or fish ( 2 - 2 1/2 large fillets of halibut) and 1 cup of oatmeal around 7 am.


3 oz of chicken breast (3/4s of a breast) or turkey and 1/2 cup of fruit like strawberries around 10 am

4 oz of chicken 2-3 cups of mushrooms stir fried in a homemade pizza sauce served with either a baked potato or cup of rice. (some type of carb.) for lunch. I also make a chicken fajita for lunch quite often . . .just no tortilla with it. (I'll literally have a plate covered in food)

A repeat of my morning snack around 3 pm

6 pm - 4 oz of fish or chicken or steak, baked potato and 2-3 cups of green peppers, onions that have been sauteed and carmelized in brown sugar twin.

8 pm - Fruit smoothie made from 2 oz of protein powder or 2 egg whites and 1/2 of strawberries or fruit from my list such as pineapple, blueberries, raspberries, etc. I will occasionally add a table spoon of sugar free chocolate.


If I'm not satisfied I can add as many veggies or salad (no dressing) to any of my feedings. There are days that I add them to everything and days that I don't need it. The thing is to eat 2-3 hours apart and do not eat in between no matter if I'm hungry. I just have to wait until the next meal to eat.

Also . . . a person only eats this way to lose the weight. There is a list of clean food to eat and depending on the food it depends on the quantity you're allowed to eat. Some things you get as much as you want, others you get maybe only a few bites or not at all. It depends on how your body processes different types of foods.

I eat meat loafs, spaghetti and meat balls, lasagna, pot roast, stews, shrimp stir fry, oatmeal cookies, pound cake, etc. Basically everything a person wants just made with friendly whole ingredients. I make my own sauces like pizza, spaghetti, BBQ, ketchup, mustard, Thia sauces, Mexican spices for tacos, etc just without the "salt" that most mixes have. I've learned to make large batches of things and freeze them and I cook on Sunday and Wednesday usually enough food for the next 3-4 days. I'm so busy eating all the time I don't always have time to cook daily. (Except evening meal. I like that fresh.)

Also, You may see a period of weeks where you don't lose and then drop 15 lbs in a week. . .depends on your body. I lost about 3-5 lbs most weeks with my largest week being 11 lbs. Once your at your weight you add things back in that aren't as friendly (like dairy) and you will maintain your current weight. You just need to give your body clean fuel so it can burn the excess off and then keep up with your daily food intake.

[Titty]

My usual day of food is something like this.


Christ! You eat more than most people who don't bother to watch their intake. Like you said, the key is removing the undesirable elements to achieve results. It's definitely much healthier that way. Your detox bm's must have been epic.

It certainly looks like you've done your homework. Are there any resources you've found that others could refer to? Even without the need to lose weight, it definitely couldn't hurt to adopt a healthier lifestyle.

Again, good for you, bro. You should be proud.

[funeeman]

Christ! You eat more than most people who don't bother to watch their intake. Like you said, the key is removing the undesirable elements to achieve results. It's definitely much healthier that way. Your detox bm's must have been epic.

It certainly looks like you've done your homework. Are there any resources you've found that others could refer to? Even without the need to lose weight, it definitely couldn't hurt to adopt a healthier lifestyle.

Again, good for you, bro. You should be proud.
Actually quite the opposite. I stopped shitting. Of course my unhealthy body had me going several like up to 7 times a day. I went to like once every three days. As my body actually used the food there was less waste. I had given up caffeine when I got the flu so I didn't have that detox headache that some people get. Thankfully my body was kind to me.

You can read from Micheal Thurmond. Or actually look at a plan customised for diabetics. I say this because an important part of healthy living is regulating your body's insulin production. If you over load on crap your body either over shoots its necessary insulin or shorts it (depending on if you loaded up with sugars or starches or what) and that can actually confuse the body as to how it needs to use that food. Diabetic living is about the cleanest living a person can do and its designed to let your body control and tell you what it needs. A less strict way to learn how to do this is by reading Paul McKenna. He teaches about controlling food portions and listening to your body as well as avoiding impulse choices. Your body will crave what it needs when it needs it, your job is to consciously decide how much of it to eat or choose the healthier choice. So. . for example. . you're hungry for a starchy carb. .. do you choose white bread or whole grain wheat. He's less about eliminating the bad foods and more about controlling them. (Although he does teach you how to beat cravings for your emotional food choices.) You'll lose weight this way too but less dramatically. The issue with his program is that if your body is used to eating junk. . you'll crave that and if haven't learned that its better to eat blueberries than it is to watermelon to get your fruit you could sabotage yourself and get discourage. I actually followed Micheal Thurmond to get clean and rid my body of bad craving and drop the weight fast. Now as I add less healthy foods into my life I'll follow the food psychology that Mckenna really teaches. But I know that I'll follow an eating schedule and plan for the rest of my life.

[badutahboy]

Great info funee... Thanks a lot!

Post up some pics for those of us who haven't seen the new you!

[Scabman]

Great info funee... Thanks a lot!

Post up some pics for those of us who haven't seen the new you!

Check out the "I'm bringing sexy back (http://swollencranium.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11306#post11306)" thread.

Then you get to see me in a wet suit as well, which is a solid bonus!

[badutahboy]

Check out the "I'm bringing sexy back (http://swollencranium.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11306#post11306)" thread.

Then you get to see me in a wet suit as well, which is a solid bonus!



Thanks for the link!


Holy Jesus Funee...half of you is gone! I was expecting noticable results, but nothing that dramatic....


I don't wanna sound queer or nothin', but I might have to print before and after pics of the funeeman to use as motivation to keep my diet clean.

(name that movie reference!)

[KommieKat]

Thanks for the info, funnee.

And congrats to you again!

Question for anybody out there:

If you go to a buffet salad bar, eat your guts out with good healthy salad ingrediants, the excess food is either eliminated through the bowels with some of it being stored in your fat.

So, your fat stored excess unprocessed foods that add to your weight. Correct?

If you eat fatty foods, you get more fat weight.
If you eat too much of the healthy foods untill your stomach bursts, its stored in the fat, adding to your weight? Is this clear at all?

Thanks.

[Josie]

If you eat fatty foods, you get more fat weight.

That's not necessarily true. There are quite a few fats that your body needs. It's just like anything else, there are good ones and bad ones. It's just that the food industry has villainized "fats", when really it's one big collaboration of all the random crap they throw into our food now days.

Also, game animal fats are hella good for you, while farm-raised animal fat is not so great.

If you're really interested about ^that^ stuff, PM me and I'll see if I can dig up an article I have on why Alaska Natives are and were very healthy people, but eat no vegetables or fruits. Just meats (proteins), oils, and fats.

It would be of absolutely no use to you where you currently live, but it's a good read.

Aaaaanyways, I noticed you said something about stuffing yourself with leafies and veggies.... I don't know about you, but my body lets me know when it's hit capacity on that. I LOVE salads - LOTS AND LOTS of extra veggies, please :D But I can only eat one heaping bowl at a time or I become ill. I'm assuming that's my body's way of saying, "Okay, great, thanks.. but we're done now!"

I won't even feel "full" or anything like that, I'll just all of a sudden realize I'm done and can eat no more. Maybe you oughta try eating a large salad before whatever meal you're having. It will give you the good stuff you need, but leave just enough room for everything else, but disallow overindulging? It's been working great for me (And I eat a whole lot in my current state, hehe)

I'm very chatty tonight... sorry for the ramblings... keep in mind I'm not educated in what I'm talking about (except for the one article), so I wouldn't place any weight in anything I've said until you've looked into it... or unless someone else who DOES know their stuff says the same thing within this thread.

[KommieKat]

That's not necessarily true. There are quite a few fats that your body needs. It's just like anything else, there are good ones and bad ones. It's just that the food industry has villainized "fats", when really it's one big collaboration of all the random crap they throw into our food now days.

Also, game animal fats are hella good for you, while farm-raised animal fat is not so great.

If you're really interested about ^that^ stuff, PM me and I'll see if I can dig up an article I have on why Alaska Natives are and were very healthy people, but eat no vegetables or fruits. Just meats (proteins), oils, and fats.

It would be of absolutely no use to you where you currently live, but it's a good read.

Aaaaanyways, I noticed you said something about stuffing yourself with leafies and veggies.... I don't know about you, but my body lets me know when it's hit capacity on that. I LOVE salads - LOTS AND LOTS of extra veggies, please :D But I can only eat one heaping bowl at a time or I become ill. I'm assuming that's my body's way of saying, "Okay, great, thanks.. but we're done now!"

I won't even feel "full" or anything like that, I'll just all of a sudden realize I'm done and can eat no more. Maybe you oughta try eating a large salad before whatever meal you're having. It will give you the good stuff you need, but leave just enough room for everything else, but disallow overindulging? It's been working great for me (And I eat a whole lot in my current state, hehe)

I'm very chatty tonight... sorry for the ramblings... keep in mind I'm not educated in what I'm talking about (except for the one article), so I wouldn't place any weight in anything I've said until you've looked into it... or unless someone else who DOES know their stuff says the same thing within this thread.

I think I get the picture about our Native friends and their need for fat.
I experienced that in some cold parts of China on tour.

I think there is something about saturated and poly-unsaturated fats.
I'll have to do my homework.

No problem with being chatty, but don't be a fatty!