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SittinGrumpy
08-30-2011, 03:31 PM
I am so annoyed by this I had to post about it. I was reading about the people who died because of Irene.

I have taken the liberty to change the font color to red of the people who would still be alive if they were not stupid people. yellowish to the ones I think should have known better but we do not know why they were where they were and green for the people who were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Dead (http://www.wral.com/news/national_world/national/story/10058779/)

Hurricane Irene blamed for at least 40 deaths
By The Associated Press

Hurricane Irene has led to the deaths of at least 40 people in 11 states. The total is derived from state and local law enforcement agencies, emergency officials and family members:

CONNECTICUT: 2
— In Prospect, 89-year-old Charlotte Levine was killed early Sunday when a falling tree limb pulled power lines onto her house and started a fire.

— In Bristol, 46-year-old Shane Seaver died after he and another man went canoeing down a flooded street and the canoe capsized. Seaver's body washed ashore late Sunday in Plainville.

DELAWARE: 2

— In Hockessin, police found the bodies of two men who had sent a text message to a friend saying they were running through Irene during the height of the storm.

FLORIDA: 2

— In Volusia County, 55-year-old Frederick Fernandez died Saturday off New Smyrna Beach after he was tossed off his board by massive waves caused by Irene.

— In Flagler County, 55-year-old tourist James Palmer of New Jersey died Saturday in rough surf.

MARYLAND: 1

— In Queen Anne's County, Md., 85-year-old Anne Bell was killed when a tree knocked a chimney through the glass roof of the sunroom where she was sitting.

MASSACHUSETTS: 1

— In Southbridge, 52-year-old public works employee Richard Gorgone was electrocuted Monday when he touched a railing on his front porch that was electrified by downed power lines.


NEW JERSEY: 6

— Michael Kenwood, an emergency medical technician, died of injuries after being knocked over by floodwaters in Princeton.

— Celena Sylvestri, 20, of Quinton called her boyfriend and then 911 early Sunday seeking help getting out of her flooded car in Pilesgrove. Her body was found eight hours later in the vehicle, about 150 feet off the road.

— The body of Ronald Dawkins, a 47-year-old postal worker, was found after he abandoned his partially submerged vehicle Sunday and stepped into a hidden drainage creek.

— Scott Palecek, 39, was walking in Wanaque when a pipe broke loose and swept him away in floodwaters Sunday.

— The body of Jorge Hernandez, 25, of Point Pleasant Beach was found Monday in a Manasquan River inlet jetty.

— The body of another man was found in Manasquan River inlet in Point Pleasant Beach on Monday. His identity was not immediately determined.

NEW YORK: 8

— Rozalia Gluck, 82, of Brooklyn drowned in a cottage in the Catskills community of Fleischmanns that was swamped by floodwaters.

— A man in his 50s was electrocuted in Spring Valley when he tried to help a child who had gone into a flooded street with downed wires.

— Sharon Stein, 68, drowned in a creek as she and her husband were evacuating their New Scotland home Sunday.

— 68-year-old Joseph Rocco of East Islip drowned while windsurfing in Bellport Bay.

— A man died after his inflatable boat capsized on the Croton River.

— The body of 68-year-old Jose Sierra of the Bronx was pulled out of the water at a marina Sunday afternoon.

— The bodies of 23-year-old Mikita Fox and Danine Swamp were pulled from a river in Altona after their vehicle plunged into the water while crossing a storm-damaged bridge.

NORTH CAROLINA: 6

— Katherine Morales Cruz, 15, of Manassas Park, Va., died Saturday in a two-car collision at an intersection where Hurricane Irene had knocked out power to the traffic lights.

— Ricky Webb, 63, who lived on a farm near Nashville, was killed after a tree limb fell on him when he went outside to feed his horse Saturday.

— Tim Avery, 50, was found sitting in a chair facing the television after strong winds toppled a tree onto his Ayden home.

— Jose Manuel Farabia Corona, 21, of Dover died in a Pitt County traffic accident after his SUV went off a road and twice slammed into trees Saturday as Irene's began to make landfall.

— Sabrina Anne Jones, 26, of Clinton died when a tree fell on a car carrying her, her husband and their young daughter Saturday in Sampson County.

— Deputies recovered the body of Melton Robinson Jr., who had been missing since falling or jumping into the Cape Fear River as storms reached North Carolina.

PENNSYLVANIA: 5

— Michael Scerarko, 44, was killed Sunday when a tree fell on him in his yard.

— A 58-year-old Harrisburg man was killed Sunday when a tree toppled onto his tent.

— A man in a camper was crushed by a tree in northeastern Pennsylvania's Luzerne County.

— A motorist was killed on the Pennsylvania Turnpike when he lost control of his car during the storm in Carbon County, skidded over an embankment and hit a tree.

— The body of 64-year-old Patricia O'Neill of East Norriton was discovered Sunday in the Wissahickon Creek, about a half-mile from where her car was found in the flooded waterway.

VERMONT: 3

— The body of Rutland Water Treatment Plant Supervisor Michael Joseph Garofano was recovered Monday, a day after he was checking on a water system intake in Mendon. His 24-year-old son, Michael Gregory Garofano, was still missing.

— A body recovered from the Deerfield River is believed to be that of a woman who fell in while watching flooding in Wilmington.

— Police said another man was found dead in Lake Rescue in Ludlow.

VIRGINIA: 4

— 11-year-old Zahir Robinson was killed when a tree crashed through his apartment.

— 67-year-old James Blackwell of Brodnax was killed when a tree fell across a car Saturday in Brunswick County.

— A man died at a Hopewell hospital Saturday after a tree fell on a house he was in.

— 57-year-old William P. Washington of King William County was killed when a tree fell on him as he was cutting another tree Saturday night.



Some of these are questionable because we really do not know why they were in their cars. Nineteen people dead because they were stupid, who the fuck goes camping in a hurricane? wind surfing? was it worth it dumbass? feeding horses? they could WAIT to eat....

If we take into account the people who we know they were doing what they should.


By my count, only 4 people should have died.....

Negativecool
08-30-2011, 04:01 PM
My thoughts...
I can only hope that my death is not associated with something as grotesquely referred to as a "body count." The only ones that seem to ever really care about the exact number are narcissistic talking head media fuckwits that cannot think beyond the grandiose headlines flashing before the front page of their minds.

Lotsa people are dead. Nuff said.

SittinGrumpy
08-30-2011, 04:06 PM
Lotsa people are dead.

Lotsa people dead because they are stupid, no other reason, stupidity!!!!

Pud
08-30-2011, 07:37 PM
^ I don't understand why you're so upset. If you're convinced they died of their own stupidity, then it's an appropriate -- some would say desirable -- outcome, no?

By any standard of measurement, driving my car and motorcycle are high-risk activities. Am I stupid too? What about if I don't give a shit whether you mourn my death or dance in glee on my grave? Does that change your emotional calculus?

SittinGrumpy
08-30-2011, 09:25 PM
^ I don't understand why you're so upset. If you're convinced they died of their own stupidity, then it's an appropriate -- some would say desirable -- outcome, no?

By any standard of measurement, driving my car and motorcycle are high-risk activities. Am I stupid too? What about if I don't give a shit whether you mourn my death or dance in glee on my grave? Does that change your emotional calculus?

It pisses me off for several reasons... 1 that it is in the news paper like these are victims of the storm, when in fact they are not. They are victims of stupidity.

I am not in mourning for any of them, I do feel bad for the people they left behind.

The ones that are yellowish I said to be questionable, you do not know why these people were out in the storm. If you ride your bike in the middle of a hurricane then I would think you were stupid too. Would I mourn, nope, would I dance nope... if they write a news article about it, I will post and call you stupid.

Wind surfing in a hurricane = stupid
in a tent in a hurricane = stupid
canoeing in a hurricane = stupid
feeding horses in a hurricane = stupid

Zeabot
08-30-2011, 09:30 PM
Wind surfing in a hurricane = stupid
Whoops, I'm guilty!

SittinGrumpy
08-30-2011, 09:59 PM
Whoops, I'm guilty!

I know it has to be "fun" or exciting but damn... do you think of what it would do to your family if you were killed doing it?

Do you think if you did die doing it, that it is at the blame of the hurricane or your need to feel the excitement?

Pud
08-30-2011, 10:02 PM
Sitting in a house in a hurricane = stupid.

I guess there's nothing to do but stupid things.

SittinGrumpy
08-30-2011, 10:09 PM
Sitting in a house in a hurricane = stupid.

whatever. I am alive, unlike the 19 dumbasses mentioned above.

KommieKat
08-30-2011, 10:48 PM
So you're going to make the call on who was stupid and who wasn't? Geez but you're a judgemental freak.


She's not stupid for sitting under a glass roof? Just "wrong place wrong time"?
— In Queen Anne's County, Md., 85-year-old Anne Bell was killed when a tree knocked a chimney through the glass roof of the sunroom where she was sitting.

Thank the gods you're not the one waiting at the gates of heaven to deny me passage.

Negativecool
08-30-2011, 11:37 PM
It pisses me off...
Wind surfing in a hurricane = stupid
in a tent in a hurricane = stupid
canoeing in a hurricane = stupid
feeding horses in a hurricane = stupid
Anger is a good way to justify death as a consequence to poor judgement.
Also, a good many of them died because of trees. Don't hate the people, hate the trees.

Imma set fire to a forest in retaliation. See how they like it. Let this be a lesson to yaz, wooded properties = death traps.

SittinGrumpy
08-31-2011, 12:36 AM
I don't know what is so fucking hard to understand about my goddamn post.

News articles about people who died because of stupidity piss me off.

Four people died as a direct relation of the hurricane, nineteen people died doing stupid shit... maybe none of you read the way they are highlighted or every last story of death but i did. The people I am talking about were not just trying to make it through a storm, the people on that fucking list that piss me off are the ones who used NO COMMON SENSE.

Four people died because of the storm, <--does not anger me
Nineteen people died for being stupid,
Seventeen people died for reasons that may have been avoided. <-- does not anger me

The headline should be " Twenty one dead due to storm issues, Nineteen dead for Stupidity"


Now as to why this pisses me off, how many mom's are planning funerals today, how many families have to deal with death today and for what? a goddamn rush? an adrenaline high? Selfish fucks. Do you know what it is like to bury a teenager? Or having to go to the morgue to identify your child's body?... I would bet 98% on this fucking board don't.

I hope it was worth it, that last high, for the pain they left behind for their families.

Grim_Legion
08-31-2011, 02:37 AM
heaven to deny me passage

even of there was a heaven, old soldiers are denied that luxury ..

Josie
08-31-2011, 05:26 AM
" Twenty one dead due to storm issues, Nineteen dead for Stupidity"

Somehow, I don't believe the people that knew these people or were close family/friends would sit well with this. You may have determined under your own criteria that they are "stupid", but close family and friends knew and loved these people. Slightly upsetting for them.


how many families have to deal with death today

Death is every day, every where. It's also a reality for every person, plant, and animal on this planet.


Is this such a straining issue for you because it's close to home? I see chatter (often often often) about honoring cancer victims, cancer survivors, not bullying obese people, and honoring our fallen military personnel.

Cancer is linked to many many different foods and lifestyle choices.. If these idiots would've read enough and changed their life enough *before* getting cancer, they wouldn't be dead/sick/mutilated. What morons. Right?

How many military members have died in not-so-glamorous ways? We trounce around acting as if each death is with honor. But do you know? Why not be angry about their stupid deaths?

Josie
08-31-2011, 05:31 AM
I don't know what is so fucking hard to understand about my goddamn post.

I think your posts clearly convey your thoughts. But they also do not make me want to deem these deceased stupid.

Grim_Legion
08-31-2011, 07:27 AM
So which ones would you nominate for Darwin Awards 2011 ?

Negativecool
08-31-2011, 03:25 PM
I don't know what is so fucking hard to understand about my goddamn post.
What Josie posted.

SittinGrumpy
08-31-2011, 03:31 PM
I think your posts clearly convey your thoughts. But they also do not make me want to deem these deceased stupid.

the thread was never meant for anyone to agree with me, it was a way to bitch about it... life half the senseless shit people post.

CrAnIuM
08-31-2011, 04:00 PM
the thread was never meant for anyone to agree with me

If this forum ever becomes a melting pot of agreeable dudes I'll shut it down.

"Yes men" and bobble headed women are dull x 10.

SittinGrumpy
08-31-2011, 04:49 PM
If this forum ever becomes a melting pot of agreeable dudes I'll shut it down.

As long as you and I are here that will never happen... asshole!

KommieKat
08-31-2011, 10:24 PM
I don't know what is so fucking hard to understand about my goddamn post.

You seem to be someone who harbors (harbours) constant bitterness, anger and blame.
Understand that bitterness may forecast patterns of biological dysrugulation which will affect metabolism, immune response and organ function.


GET OVER IT ALREADY

Josie
08-31-2011, 10:27 PM
the thread was never meant for anyone to agree with me,

K. Your upset reaction to disagreeing ideas led me to think you were venting *and* posting to sway the opinion of the reader.


it was a way to bitch about it... like half the senseless shit people post.

No problem there. I don't care what's posted, but this is an interesting thread that pulls out a variety of opinions.. therefore, I'd say it's a good post :)

Josie
08-31-2011, 10:28 PM
You seem to be someone who harbors (harbours) constant bitterness, anger

lol. You apparently haven't noticed her name?

Zeabot
08-31-2011, 10:55 PM
bobble headed women are dull x 10.
Disagree. I love women who are bobble headed.

surgicalstrike
08-31-2011, 11:08 PM
— 11-year-old Zahir Robinson was killed when a tree crashed through his apartment

Lucky Zahir gets to skip high school.

Grim_Legion
09-01-2011, 03:56 AM
^ all decked out and nowhere to go ..