Sports 'n such.

[surgicalstrike]

I know a lot of you don't care to talk about sports up in this place, but I'd bet you each have a favorite team you occasionally check in on. List your favorites on here or talk about anything sport related.

That said, I like hockey and NFL football with the LA Kings and Oakland Raiders topping my list.

Now I read that hockey thug Donald Brashear is going to be an MMA fighter?!

"Brashear was involved in a serious brawl on ice where he continued to hammer a defenseless downed player earning a five game suspension. After the altercation, he allegedly attacked a fan in the parking lot, and charges are pending at this time. Brashear turned 39 in January. Vincent reports that he has yet to apply to e commission for a license, and his most recent on-ice escapade may prevent him from obtaining one." -C/P


^This is the dolt that the whole world seemed to love when former LA King/Boston player Marty Mcsorley hit him upside the head with his stick that sent old Donny flopping on the ice. Sure what Marty did was unfortunate but I never felt sorry for that ape, as he was much dirtier (and not nearly the player) at his role than Mcsorley ever was.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnP18StCoHA(shitty quality but didn't want the 5min version)


Good on ya Marty..twas one for the ages.http://swollencranium.com/forums/images/icons/happysmile.png

So if Donald does fight MMA on June 4 against a relatively (?) unknown heavyweight, I hope the ? kicks the shit out of him.

[CrAnIuM]

I've never been into any sport as a spectator. I do not follow any college or pro sport.

For awhile while I was teaching combatives for the Army I followed the MMA and K-1 circuit. But now I've given that up as well, although I do stop to read the articles as they flash across my news reader if I see a name I recognize.

I spend less than 5 minutes a week on sports info of any type, I'd estimate.

[surgicalstrike]

Man, not even a baseball score? Like to check if upside your head won or not. I also play a free game on some betting site (don't gamble though, unless I'm in Vegas) that pays a hundred grand (yes 100) if you can hit 22 wins in a row. <---was 20 but after a couple people hit it, it moved up one and so on. It's a free game so why not? 11 is my best run, so it's possible...@ 8 right now.

[CrAnIuM]

Man, not even a baseball score?

Nope. I'm a fairly cynical type and I especially loath all 'professional' sports. And BASEBALL and FOOTBALL top my list of WTF? when I read about the hundreds of millions of $$$ spent to get a pro team to a certain city. <--- Some of it paid by tax payers.

[SlimSkeeter]

Don't even get me started on pro sports.... These crybabies get paid millions to play a game then whine some more when they stub their toe and they sit on the sidelines. I'd love to be a damn benchwarmer for any pro team. Sit on my ass and make $100,000 a year.

Yeah, I get it...that's their livelyhood. If they get too hurt they won't play anymore.

Big fucking deal...if I get hurt too bad, I won't be able to work anymore either. Do you see me getting paid 6 and 7 digits a year? No.

And most of these guys are too fucking stupid to do anything else with their lives so why the hell should they get paid so damn much? They are NOT the cream of the crop nor are they outstanding citizens.

[surgicalstrike]

Yup, I hear you guys on the money side of things, yet for me it's a good break from the usual gayness known as sitcoms and game shows.

[KommieKat]

Pro sports suck.

Now, even football, which I enjoyed occasionally watching (not that fucking gay American game) is sucking because of the scandals now taking place.

[surgicalstrike]

I've never been into any sport as a spectator.

The wife might enjoy a night out at Staples Center or the equivalent in your area.

[Stickman]

Like most Australian's a I'm touch sports mad. I'll follow pretty much anything. But growing up in country Queensland has made me a Rugby League fan. I went to State of Origin last week. Came home barely able to speak due to abuse levelled at New South Wales. Otherwise I watch a bit of Australian Football but not much. Really only care about Rugby once the World Cup comes around. Been watching a bit of the NBA playoffs and watched the post season of the NFL earlier this year. Fuck if it's on I'll even watch the tennis. Nothing like a few beers and some sport on in the background.

[proper stranger]

I agree with the money thing. No one should get that much cash for playing a game.
Now that I have made my stand on that clear, I gotta tell ya that I love football. American football.
My favorite pro team is the Minn. Vikings.
My favorite college team would be the Badgers.

Baseball is o.k. But only if it is a Cubs game.

[KommieKat]

My favorite pro team is the Minn. Vikings.


Anybody remember the L.A. Rams with Roman Gabriel, Jack Youngblood, Rosey Grier, Merlin Olsen, Pat Haden and Vince Ferragamo?

[surgicalstrike]

Fearsome foursome FTW. ^^ Used to go to the Rams and Raider games, up until they both left in 1994. Can't leave out Lamar Lundy and Deacon Jones.

Any Atlanta people in here? No more hockey for you as the NHL announced today they are moving the Thrashers franchise to Winnipeg, Canada.

[Firestorm]

Haven't really paid attention to sports, especially baseball since the strike and football since the Cowboys went from good to suck, haha. Every once in a while I'll read the sports page for shits and giggles, but follow any team or sport? Nope. Would rather watch grass grow and paint dry.

[Gravy]

I'll watch and enjoy pretty much any sport except for AFL.

My entire British side of the family are Mancunians, so I'm a United supporter in the EPL. Also enjoy watching La Liga, Eredivisie and Bundesliga.
Most of my Aussie side of the family are Queenslanders (with the other few being Victorian), so I'm a Queensland supporter in the State of Origin series.
I live in the Roosters/Souths area, but I am a Wests Tigers supporter in the NRL (before that was a Magpies supporter before they merged teams as they were the closest team to me geographically).
My friends from Washington state have made me a Seahawks supporter (by proxy) in the NFL, even though I can't even name a single player on the team.
Brumbies supporter in the Super-15 rugby. Even if they suck.
Don't have a team in the NBA or NBL.
Big fan of the horse racing scene, albeit only for the ladies, gambling and the drinking.

I don't really get time to watch much sport these days with the exception of the big games. I do keep regular track of my favourite teams, though, and also take part in tipping competitions for a few of them at both of my workplaces.

[Josie]

My friends from Washington state have made me a Seahawks supporter

^ only part that didn't sound like gibberish to me.

[KommieKat]

Anybody remember the L.A. Lakers with........Wilt Chamberlain,Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Kevin McHale's, Kurt Rambis, James Worthy, Magic Johnson, A.C. Green, Michael Cooper..did I miss anybody?

[Stickman]

^ only part that didn't sound like gibberish to me.

Weird I understood it all.

[Josie]

Weird I understood it all.

Your water flushes backwards too.

[surgicalstrike]

Starts today...

Boston vs. Vancouver

Canada hasn't had the cup in their country since 1993.

Go Bruins.

[proper stranger]

Anybody remember the L.A. Rams with Roman Gabriel, Jack Youngblood, Rosey Grier, Merlin Olsen, Pat Haden and Vince Ferragamo?
Hell yeah! The Vikings used to meet up with the Rams in the playoffs alot back then.
The Fearsome Foursome Vs The Purple People Eaters....Alan Page..Carl Eller..Jim Marshall..Gary Larson..

[surgicalstrike]

Baseball is o.k. But only if it is a Cubs game.

Watching the Cubs was never the same without Harry Caray on all those summer games that WGN would show. Although Steve Stone is alright.

The Dodgers will be in the same boat, once Vin Scully passes.

[proper stranger]

Somewhere in the back of my mind, Harry Caray will always be the voice of the Cubs.
Holy Cow!

[proper stranger]

I saw today that the NFL is thinking about having an 8 game season. Starting in Nov., I believe they said that the superbowl would be played on Feb. 12 (somewhere around that date anyhow).
Billionaires arguing with Millionaires, while the fans get the shaft.
That really aggravates the hell out of me.

[Titty]

I find sports on a par with watching worms fuck and getting tetanus shots.

[surgicalstrike]

on a par with watching worms fuck



Sounds like you're describing golf. How that event gets ratings high enough to keep it being televised/front page news is a mystery.

[SittinGrumpy]

I am a HUGE college basketball fan but that is it. I use to be NBA fan but now its just thugs with too much money.

[SlimSkeeter]

NBA fan


My father calls it the Nigger Basketball Association.

Or Nigger Hoop Ball.

That is all........

[surgicalstrike]

I am a HUGE college basketball fan


Follow the tar heels do ya? James Worthy (big game) was from there, and those were the years I really liked the Lakers with Chick Hearn calling the game.

[KommieKat]

I was in N.C. for high school and it was either you were a Wolf Pack fan or Blue Devils or S.C. Clemson Tigers.

Fuck, I hated the South with a passion.

[surgicalstrike]

^^Don't blame you there.

For the record, Boston has just won the Stanley Cup!! Not that anyone gives a shit, but Vancouver = choke, as USA bitch slapped 'em 4-0 (gm 7) in "oh, Canada...".

:)

[SittinGrumpy]

Follow the tar heels do ya?

I am very much a carolina fan... I bleed baby blue :)
Wolf Pack fan or Blue Devils or S.C. Clemson Tigers.

I am not sure you are remembering correctly, duke wasn't a good team when you were here... State and UNC were the big rivals around here in the 70's and 80's.

[surgicalstrike]

2nd week of pre-season NFL already: Oakland vs. San Fran in the battle of the bay tonight .. are ya ready for some football !

[SlimSkeeter]

pre-season NFL

I'll never understand why people get excited about a glorified practice game.

[surgicalstrike]

The outcome really doesn't matter, it's just good to see some action besides boring golf and baseball.

[SlimSkeeter]

The outcome really doesn't matter

That's how I feel about most sports.

[Grim_Legion]

life is to short to watch sports on TV

[TopGrey]

Any Atlanta people in here?


Yah, I'm probably the only Atlanta fan around this heya site. Currently live in western NC and wish the Panthers would move to Canada......I wasn't surprised when they Thrashers got moved, happened once before with another Atlanta Hockey team. Anyway, Falcons, as bad as it's been being a fan of theirs, are my team, and with Julio Jones to compliment Roddy White things should go pretty well this year.


Hey everyone, remember one thing: You are as valuable as what someone is willing to pay you. If some billionaire owner wants to pay some Pro player a 7 digit salary who the hell are you to give them shit about it? Let's say your boss comes to you tomorrow and says "Jim, I feell you need a 50% increase in pay just because I know doing so will increase my overall revenue by 20%, what do you say to that?" You, deep down, know your slacking off and haven't done any real work for the guy in 5 years, but HE feels you're doing a bang up job....who's fault is that?

If your city/county/state pulls money from the tax payers for a Professional Team you should consider a change in governmental leaders. They (gubment) always say if we bring in a sports team money will roll in. They are wrong and I haven't seen any instance yet where that has been the case, usually they lose money on the XX million dollar stadium, no one likes the team, the team moves to another city, so on and so forth.

[CrAnIuM]

7 digit salary who the hell are you to give them shit about it?


True.

And exactly why I WANT pro ballers to juice up with every muscle building / speed making / pain killing drug on the planet.

A dude getting 50 million $$ for 5 years of contract better be goddamn bullet proof.


On the other hand ...

Pro ports teams get huge incentives to be located in certain cities, and put strains on services (fire/police/other EMS) during season times. This effects the local folks to some degree. So maybe local folks and business do have a place to say stuff about the local team.

I dunno .. I live in the woods, no teams here thanks @!!@

[Zeabot]

So maybe local folks and business do have a place to say stuff about the local team.
A lot of communities do have say in what happens with the sports team in the area. If anything needs to change (IE more night games w/ the Cubs) it has to pass referendum.

EDIT: At least that is my experience. I shouldn't speak for every city/team.


If some billionaire owner wants to pay some Pro player a 7 digit salary who the hell are you to give them shit about it?
My feeling about this goes even farther. If the player does not get paid that ridiculous amount, the owner would just keep it. I would much rather the athlete make more money than the billionaire owner horde more.

[SlimSkeeter]

ridiculous amount

This is why I hate pro sports. Some jerkass gets paid more in one game than I make in one whole year. Why? Because he's playing a game? I'm not even talking endorsement deals and shit. I'm talking getting handed a stack of cash just for putting on a uniform and showing up. Christ, I'd love to be a pro bench warmer. I'd be out of debt for life after about 2 years. So why do they get paid so much?

I seem to remember saying something like this before..

"But Slim, that's their livelihood! If they get hurt bad out there, then their careers are over!" Fuck that. I take more risk in my job every day than these jackasses do in any given year and the same idea applies to me. If I get hurt bad enough (and believe me, there have been some close calls) I'm out of a job and hell I could be crippled or die. I don't get a 6 figure income for it unless you count the numbers to the right of the decimal.

"Slim, they have like 10 or 15 years worth of good playing time in them and that's it!" Yeah. Their choice, too, isn't it?

Props to them all for being good at a game. Hooray for them. Modern day Gladiators. Actually, that would make me watch. Slaughter a member of the losing team live after the game and I'll grant that they deserve large paychecks.

/rant

[Zeabot]

Why?

Same reason as I said before -- the game makes a ton of money. The NFL made ~ 9-10 billion last year. That money has to go some where and I, for one, like to see it in the athlete's pockets before the owners.

[Negativecool]

This is why I hate pro sports. Some jerkass gets paid more in one game than I make in one whole year. Why? Because he's playing a game? I'm not even talking endorsement deals and shit. I'm talking getting handed a stack of cash just for putting on a uniform and showing up. Christ, I'd love to be a pro bench warmer. I'd be out of debt for life after about 2 years. So why do they get paid so much?
Haven't grown out of this have ya? They have a god given talent to play whatever game it is they play. Just so happens someone decided to pay them a load of cash to do it. Stop referring to pro-sports as a game, as if it's only child's play, and think of it more of a business (like players and owners alike do). Players represent an investment. The larger the investment the greater the expectation of the return. When thought of in this light it is much easier to grasp the idea of one player getting paid 10 million per year (or whatever). Ever get infuriated that brain surgeons make so much money? They're as talented at their craft as pro sports players are at theirs.

Essentially they have massive talent at something you don't in which they get paid more than you'll see your whole life. Get over it.

I'll totally agree that they don't deserve further pensions or supported healthcare after the fact. Most of them had to obtain a college degree before reaching pro-sports. When they're done with their sports careers they need take out the huge platinum spoon crammed down in their mouths during that time, step off the pampered dream cloud, and use their degree (whatever that may be) and get a job like the rest of us to support them-god-damn-selves through the rest of their lives. OR pay to get an education (which is a pittance in comparison to what they've been paid) and get a degree worth using. Fuck pro athletes in that sense.

[SittinGrumpy]

Most of them had to obtain a college degree before reaching pro-sports. When they're done with their sports careers they need take out the huge platinum spoon crammed down in their mouths during that time, step off the pampered dream cloud, and use their degree (whatever that may be) and get a job like the rest of us

Michael Jordan.

That's all I am saying :)

[Negativecool]

Michael Jordan.

That's all I am saying :)
What about him?

[CrAnIuM]

What about him?

Can't you read?

She SAID that's all she's saying.

You is dum.

[SittinGrumpy]

What about him?

wow...


He is a great example of what you are talking about.


*sigh*

[SlimSkeeter]

Same reason as I said before -- the game makes a ton of money. The NFL made ~ 9-10 billion last year. That money has to go some where and I, for one, like to see it in the athlete's pockets before the owners.

And I say that money could and should have gotten invested in scientific research and development. Imagine if private investors had spent that much on the space program?



Ever get infuriated that brain surgeons make so much money? They're as talented at their craft as pro sports players are at theirs.

No, they are MORE talented and area actually DOING something, yet they don't make nearly as much. I'd be ok with a surgeon making 6 or 7 figures a year because he's actually doing more than playing catch, hes saving lives. My bitch is that "pro athletes" get that goddamn much money and don't do anything to further or better humanity. They toss a ball around. I don't care if it is an investment, its a game that is played on playgrounds and in backyards across the nation. You can't do any kind of surgery successfully in your back yard.

[Negativecool]

And I say that money could and should have gotten invested in scientific research and development. Imagine if private investors had spent that much on the space program?




No, they are MORE talented and area actually DOING something, yet they don't make nearly as much. I'd be ok with a surgeon making 6 or 7 figures a year because he's actually doing more than playing catch, hes saving lives. My bitch is that "pro athletes" get that goddamn much money and don't do anything to further or better humanity. They toss a ball around. I don't care if it is an investment, its a game that is played on playgrounds and in backyards across the nation. You can't do any kind of surgery successfully in your back yard.
Like I said before, they're contributing more to a business than playing a game. They represent large investments of capital with the expectations of larger returns. It ain't their fault our country is willing to pump billions into their respective sports. They are who we have created. We lose interest, they lose money.

[Negativecool]

wow...


He is a great example of what you are talking about.


*sigh*
Who's this "Michael Jordan" you speak of??

[CrAnIuM]

I'd be ok with a surgeon

30,000 dudes won't go out in 20 degree weather to watch a Doctor remove a gall bladder.

110 MILLION (link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/07/super-bowl-2011-ratings-s_n_819559.html)) won't sit for 3 hours and watch that ^^ doc on a TV screen.

But they will and routinely do that for pro type sports.


This tells me that the 50 million dollar contracts given out are but a pittance in total global sports revenue and as such those athletes are entitled to every damn dime of it.

Why should you care that your neighbor makes $700 an hour at a legal profession while you scrape in $7.35/hr? Maybe that same neighbor needs to 'give' $300 an hour to Save the Tits foundation or some other lame ass cancer thing? Who are you to decide what HE should find as a worthy charity .. or are you saying just put all the global money in a big ass pot and the charity in question rolls by and get a share?

The argument for "better things could be done" has been made for ages.


Bah ...You are filled with crazy.


(And we've taken this sports thread too far out in left field. <--- HA! )

[SittinGrumpy]

Who's this "Michael Jordan" you speak of??

I am not talking to you about sports anymore. I agree with some of your points but the statement quoted above is sad and means you really do not know anything about sports....

On the other hand, I think you are just trying to piss me off or fuck with me.... still NO more sports talk with you pffffft

[Zeabot]

It ain't their fault our country is willing to pump billions into their respective sports

^ Truth. The "problem" is not with the athletes making millions, it is with the consumers spending billions on the sport.


(And we've taken this sports thread too far out in left field. <--- HA! )
You're fired.

[Negativecool]

I am not talking to you about sports anymore. I agree with some of your points but the statement quoted above is sad and means you really do not know anything about sports....

On the other hand, I think you are just trying to piss me off or fuck with me.... still NO more sports talk with you pffffft
What are these "sports" you speak of?

[surgicalstrike]

it is with the consumers spending billions on the sport.

Shut the fuck up.

If there's a problem, it's more than likely you trying to weasel the significant others penis out of his pocket, during a family entertainment environment.

:yociexp71:

[Zeabot]

trying to weasel the significant others penis out of his pocket, during a family entertainment environment.
What? That does not make any sense.

Oh and by the way, the reason problem was in quotations is because I don't believe sports making billions is a problem.

[proper stranger]

The "problem" is not with the athletes making millions, it is with the consumers spending billions on the sport.

O.k. blame the consumers. Most of their money goes right back into circulation...more than the ticket price..there's beer, food, gas, traffic tickets, hd tv's for watching at home, babysitters for watching elsewhere......They are helping to stimulate the economy. But who the hell cares about that or them, right?? I guess they are just not as important as the greedy millionaires who horde their money, and demand more and more and more. And all that giving back to the community bullshit they talk about is just that. Bullshit. They get paid to play a fucking game. They need to do more than visit a grade school and smile nicely for the camera. The consumers get payed for working a job..if they are lucky enough to have one. They are the backbone of the economy and this country. They are the ones giving back to the community as well.
Happy Labor Day.

[surgicalstrike]

That does not make any sense.

Two dudes tongue tickling each other's nut sacks never does.

[Pud]

Two dudes tongue tickling each other's nut sacks never does.

Why not?

[proper stranger]

Why not?

Because two dongs doesn't make a dyke.

[Pud]

Because two dongs doesn't make a dyke.

They do if you turn one inside out. They can do that now.

[surgicalstrike]

if you turn one inside out

Hence a pud. You should also drive opposite the flow of traffic on the freeway. Pay no attention to that "do not enter" sign ..sure a 'special' dolt like yourself will be okie dokie.




Happy Labor Day

Another week or so and it's NFL for reals day ..who's the Vikings open up against? Raiders are at Denver for week 1.

[proper stranger]

Week 1:
The Vikings play the Chargers.
That Chargers loss should make any Raiders fan smile.
I'll have a big one glued to my face as well.

[surgicalstrike]

^^Nice..since Oakland beat every AFC west opponent twice last year (Den, SD, KC) they'll each be preparing for the Raiders like it's the SB ! Going to be tough for Oakland with all the player changes and new coach.

My underdog team this year is the Rams ..think they win the NFC west. Chris Long should be in silver and black. (sigh)

[proper stranger]

Any spawn of Howie's should be in silver and black.
Believe it or not...my underdog team this year is the same as my favorite team...The Vikings.
Their QB situation is far from what I hoped it would be. Hopefully the run game and defense will dominate.

[proper stranger]

Week 1:
The Vikings play the Chargers.
That Chargers loss should make any Raiders fan smile.
I'll have a big one glued to my face as well.

All I can say is "fuck".

[surgicalstrike]

All I can say is "fuck".

Haha

Almost had that feeling myself with all the stupid penalties in the MNF game. Besides that, the Raiders defense looked good and got out of the mile high country with a 23-20 victory !

Mcfadden reminded me of Bo Jackson in that game...running fuckers over like it was nothing. 150 yards rushing and that run in the 4th was a TD regardless what that ref said, sucks for Darren ..how the hell you run the whole field and a half and don't get a TD?

Janikowski with the NFL record (tying) 63 yard FG and Lechler with an unheard of 77 yard punt.

Congrats to Hue Jackson on getting his first win in his first game as head coach ! (First time Raiders have won first game since 2002)

[SittinGrumpy]

All I can say is "fuck".

This is not true.... you also said "All I can say is"

[proper stranger]

This is not true.... you also said "All I can say is"

fuck

[surgicalstrike]

fuck

It's ok, Minn should get a win in KC this week. I fear NE coming off a loss will topple Oak ..here's their chance to prove they can be a contender.

[proper stranger]

Maybe. But the Vikings are 0-3. I don't think they can come back from that and make the playoffs. They only gave A.P. the ball 17 times for the whole game last week. Biggest play of the game..4th and 1..and they handed off to Garhart. WTF???????????
NE is going to be hard to beat after last week. But it's been a long time since the Raiders played as well as they are playing this season.
Should be a good game.

This week the Vikings either win, or become the laughing stock of the NFL...if they are not it already.

[Zeabot]

I can't see the Vikings losing. The Chiefs are terrible, with their two stars on IR.

[CrAnIuM]

Since this is a sports and SUCH thread .....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9a_-UKYdNs


This bad ass 11 year old athlete is so dominate on the field that his league chooses to enact a rule that effectively limits his destruction of other teams.

Now, were talking 11 year old sixth grade kids here where the goal is to develop as many good players as possible, learn the game mechanics and teach teamwork in hopes of polishing a GREAT player from the rough diamonds of youth, its just that this kid is such a natural that he is already outside that need. I see the rule as keeping within those goals and find it to be fair.

Any comments?

[TopGrey]

Any comments? I don't know, by taking him out of the game he might become discouraged and completely drop the sport altogether. Doesn't seem he gets a fair shake if that is the case.

On the other hand he probably is laughing about it and will go on to be one hell of a pro athlete!

[CrAnIuM]

I don't know, by taking him out of the game he might become discouraged and completely drop the sport altogether. Doesn't seem he gets a fair shake if that is the case.

Its of course impossible to really tell one way or the other but is appears as if he has someone in his life keeping him grounded. Also, it seems as if the school is handling it properly and that it would likely not be an issue outside that district were it not for some asshat in a news center somewhere reading a wire report.

Further and as usual, it seems as if the media might be fishing for drama where there is none.

Still, it would be a welcome change to see a well grounded, intelligent, family and community oriented young person who just HAPPENS to be uber talented make it all the way to old age without some bozo hanger on or 'posse' member fucking up a good thing. or some trick ass skank screwing his life.

I for one want to leave this story with positive thoughts, and hope he gets only good things.

[Zeabot]

develop as many good players as possible, learn the game mechanics and teach teamwork


but is appears as if he has someone in his life keeping him grounded
Those are contradictions. By taking him out of the game, he is being elevated to a status of "I'm better than you, so much so that even the big guys at the top recognize it." Also, the "game mechanics and teach teamwork," does not get learned by this child if he is sitting on the bench some where. I'm sure this kid won't excel in college (if he makes it) and definitely not in the pros without the sound fundamentals that WOULD have been taught to him right now.

[surgicalstrike]

and hope he gets only good things

If anything, this Madre Hill rule will inspire the kid more, it's got to be an awesome feeling to be compared to football greats. (and the first kid to get the rule since Madre himself started it all.)

Besides, it's only for 5th and 6th grade ..next year he'll be in 7th and can score as much as he can. You can bet this will look good on his resume for later on.

[CrAnIuM]

Those are contradictions. By taking him out of the game, he is being elevated to a status of "I'm better than you, so much so that even the big guys at the top recognize it." Also, the "game mechanics and teach teamwork," does not get learned by this child if he is sitting on the bench some where. I'm sure this kid won't excel in college (if he makes it) and definitely not in the pros without the sound fundamentals that WOULD have been taught to him right now.

I disagree. At least I disagree from the standpoint of the school administration. They have an obligation to be inclusive at least to a point. If he is allowed to score EVERY time he touches the ball as is being suggested by the video then the defense never gets a full workout, nor the offense nor do the special teams.

[Zeabot]

If he is allowed to score EVERY time he touches the ball
Don't let him touch the ball every down. Have him play defense. Let him come in every other series. Let him allow OTHERS on the team to score. That's the teamwork I'm talking about.

[CrAnIuM]

Don't let him touch the ball every down. Have him play defense. Let him come in every other series. Let him allow OTHERS on the team to score. That's the teamwork I'm talking about.

Indeed.

Interesting.

[Zeabot]

I guess it is all a moot point, though. It is kind of sickening where the world is going with scouting these little kids.
http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2010/02/middle_school_quarterback_comm.html

[CrAnIuM]

I guess it is all a moot point, though. It is kind of sickening where the world is going with scouting these little kids.

This goes along well with the lies that college football players are not being courted with $$$ and expensive swag. Colleges make so much money from their Football programs that they may as well say that they are a sports facility that has a few class rooms attached.

NCAA rules .. what a crock of shit.

[surgicalstrike]

Upset special : Nebraska over Wisconsin ..tune in tonight @ 8pm eastern time. :27:

[Zeabot]

NCAA rules .. what a crock of shit.
Oh man. That is a whole 'nother can of worms.
http://college-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/25994530
^^ Really?

[proper stranger]

Hey Surg.....
That would not be an upset. WI is ranked 7 Neb is ranked 8. At least last I checked anyhow.
Like I said, do you want to chalk up the win for WI now, or wait until the formality of playing the game is over?
Can't wait to watch.
Take that!!

[surgicalstrike]

That would not be an upset. WI is ranked 7 Neb is ranked 8.

If 8 beats any 1-7 then it is indeed an upset.

Nebraska needs this victory to prove they can hang in this new conference.

[proper stranger]

Nebraska needs this victory to prove they can hang in this new conference.

They will hang.

[proper stranger]

I can't see the Vikings losing. The Chiefs are terrible, with their two stars on IR.

That may be, however, the Vikings can find some pretty creative ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[surgicalstrike]

They will hang.

Hope the blackshirts hang a zero on the honey badger offense.

Bam !!

[Afro Jive]

Yo If it weren't fo' da black nigga, dere would be nahh sports in America.

we's've even defeated you in golf, cracker motha fucker, what 'chew trippin foo'

[surgicalstrike]

we's've

lol


what 'chew trippin foo'

You got that right, picked the wrong week to talk smack..Nebr got clobbered while Oak shot their chance @ winning with a ton of penalties. Even KC woke up and tasted victory ?!

Proper: Legends and Leaders..if big red can somehow win the div then I hope the championship rematch is a hella lot closer. No doubt Wi will win the Leaders div. <--look unstoppable !

[proper stranger]

No doubt Wi will win the Leaders div. <--look unstoppable !

They looked pretty damn good out there. I believe this was the first game this year that they didn't top 50 points.
I'm glad WI was able to give the Huskers a proper welcoming into the conference.
I really had fun watching that one.
The Vikings game on Sunday was another story.

[proper stranger]

I can't see the Vikings losing. The Chiefs are terrible, with their two stars on IR.


The Vikings are never a sure thing. That loss probably made them the official laughing stalk of the league.


What team do you root for?

[Zeabot]

Yeah... About that prediction... Whoops? I am a Bears fan.

[proper stranger]

Whoops?
lol



The Bears you say. Division rivals. Cool shit Z.
The week after next...the Vikings vs the Bears....any predictions?
Got any for this week's games?..any game.

[Zeabot]

Got any for this week's games?..any game.
Haha, are you looking to bet against my picks? I would. I'm not afraid to say the Lions are probably going to run laps around us on Monday night.

I think we should do alright against the Vikings. They are mediocre and we usually handle business (even if ugly) against mediocrity.

[proper stranger]

Haha, are you looking to bet against my picks?
Maybe.



As an upset special for this week, I'm taking the Bears over the Lions on Monday night.
I think the Vikings will finally get it together, and score a win against the Cardinals this Sunday.



I'll wait until this weekend's games are over before making a prediction on the Vikings vs Bears game.

[surgicalstrike]

Look for the Raiders to bounce back on the road in Houston. Jackpot, I know that's your area (and team).. hope you make it to the game and cry all the way home.




:khi6c:

[proper stranger]

Look for the Raiders to bounce back on the road in Houston

I think the Raiders will keep it close, only to lose in the 4th quarter because of penalties.

Any thoughts on the Ohio St. vs Neb. Game?
I'm picking Neb to win that one.


I don't think Jack will be back. Neither will Woody Hayes.

[Zeabot]

Ohio St. vs Neb. Game?
Nebraska will win by 10+. OSU is garbage. They got hit with too much poonanny all at once.

[surgicalstrike]

http://i.imgur.com/o5PKt.jpg (http://imgur.com/o5PKt)

Thanks for never giving in and doing it your way..the raider way. Just win baby ! 82 is long enough time to spend on this rock anyways. Later uncle Al.

[surgicalstrike]

Nebraska will win by 10+.

They NEED to destroy 'em, but after last week I'm not so sure.

[Zeabot]

They NEED to destroy 'em
They sure do. If Nebraska ends up being mediocre, who else does the Big 10 have?

[proper stranger]

If Nebraska ends up being mediocre, who else does the Big 10 have?

Wisconsin.

[Zeabot]

I meant outside of them. Illinois, Nebraska, and Michigan? Who knows.

[proper stranger]

Damn, that comeback was sure fun to watch.
With all the unanswered points Neb put up in the 2nd half, I'd be surprised if they did not improve their standing in the rankings.
WI will probably drop a few spots because they did not play this weekend (I think they may have broken the score board last week).

A quick question here. Maybe a sign of my ignorance, maybe not. The Huskers wear red, so what's with the black shirts thing they keep going on about?


And now it's kickoff time for the Vikings game....bye

[proper stranger]

I meant outside of them. Illinois, Nebraska, and Michigan? Who knows.

I guess I don't understand the question. Are you asking what teams are in the Big 10, or which teams are good/great in the Big 10?

Legends:
MI..Ranked 11 ap/10 coaches
MI St...Ranked 23 ap/19 coaches
Neb...Ranked 14 ap/14 coaches
Iowa..unranked
MN..unranked
N'Western..Unranked

Leaders:
WI..4ap/4 coaches
IL..16 ap/15 coaches
Penn.St..25 coaches
Purdue..??
Ohio St...unranked
IN..unranked

Half the conference are in the top 25 before the games today....
No doubt that will change when the new rankings for next week come out.

I hope this proves helpful.

[Zeabot]

which teams are good/great in the Big 10?
That one. I think MSU, PSU, Purdue, OSU, Iowa, MN, and NW are all garbage. Michigan, Illinois, and Nebraska are suspect. Wisconsin might be the only decent representative of our conference! I guess we'll just have to let the season unfold.

[surgicalstrike]

Yes ! Raiders win after most 'experts' said Houston would win easy. Loved the 'AL' sticker on the back of helmets. Way to beat a top team in the wake of the owner's passing. I'd like to think of it as a final fuck you by Mr. Davis.

[proper stranger]

Wisconsin might be the only decent representative of our conference!

I agree. And that sucks big time. The rest of the conference is just mediocre enough to keep WI out of the Champion game(assuming thet go undefeated) due to strength of schedule.

[proper stranger]

What's this I see? No football perditions for this week.
Sunday night...Vikings score a big win over the Bears.
I had thought about taking this game as an upset special. But after watching last week's game between the Lions and Bears, I'm not sure which team is the underdog in this one.

I'm still thinking over some of the college games.

[Zeabot]

Sunday night...Vikings score a big win over the Bears.
Julius Peppers will probably not play, but I still think the Bears win. Granted the Vikes have AP, but not much else going on. IF we can stop him, I don't think the Vikes can move the ball. Bears win, 24-10
Upset watch: Miami over the Jets and Houston over Baltimore.

[proper stranger]

Houston over Baltimore.
I agree.

I've also got the Bills over the Giants. Raiders over the Browns.
Upset specials:
Buccaneers over the Saints
49ers over Lions.

For the College games, I'm picking Texas to upset Oklahoma St...Yes, there will be cheers and beers all around Texas this week.
Michigan over Michigan St.
Illinois over Ohio St.
And of course, Wisconsin will beat Indiana by at least 24.

[proper stranger]

Bears win, 24-10


Hahahaaaaaaaaaaa
I think I am going to enjoy this game.

[surgicalstrike]

49ers over Lions.

Houston over Baltimore.

Agree.^

I like Indy to get their first win over Cincy in the NFL and BYU has a good shot at upsetting Oregon St. for my college pick.





Raiders over the Browns.

They should win and cover the 6.5 spread. It's the first time the Raiders have been favored this year. I took Cleveland and the points on a lunch bet..hope I lose, it's just that the Raiders have a nasty habit of keeping games close with teams they should blow away.

[proper stranger]

Final
IN 7 - WI 59

[Zeabot]

Upset specials:
Buccaneers over the Saints
49ers over Lions.
Good calls. I didn't think the 49ers were for real. We'll have to keep watching though!

[surgicalstrike]

49'er coach disrespects Lion's coach with a 'fuck off' pat on the back. Nice !!

Meanwhile, Campbell is lost for season with broken collar bone. Boller should do just as well as starting QB for Oakland..KC before the bye = priceless.

[Zeabot]

Owned.

[proper stranger]

No doubt.



I've got to learn to make my perditions with my head instead of my heart(at least as far as the Vikings go).
Hahahaa. Hope springs eternal...??

[Kill_em_All]

Illinois over Ohio St.

Was there.

Don't remember much other than your prediction being wrong and it being windy as a motherfucker.

[proper stranger]

Was there.

I hope you enjoyed the game. Wind and all. I didn't get a chance to see that one.

The closest I ever get to 'being there', is when the local High School team plays at home.
At some point I hope to be saying I "Was there", for a big one down at Camp Randall in Mad Town.

[surgicalstrike]

World Series starts Wed..Texas @ St. Louis for game 1. Texas is probably favored to win it all for the first time in their franchise history, yet I think Albert Pujols gets another ring in (what could be) his final year with the Cardinals. Going with the cards in 6.

[proper stranger]

I've got WI over MI St. tonight.
Tomorrow afternoon the Packers come calling on the Vikings.
Packers by 20+.....so sad );

[Zeabot]

I've got WI over MI St. tonight.
Tomorrow afternoon the Packers come calling on the Vikings.
Packers by 20+.....so sad );
Agreed, but Packers by 20+ only because of GB defense.
Upset in college football- Auburn over LSU

NFL:
Chicago over TB big.
Miami gets its first win
No other real upsets this week.

[proper stranger]

.

No other real upsets this week.

I think you are right here.
I think the Bears vs the Buccaneers is questionable though. The Bears looked like world beaters last week...but they were only playing the Vikings...This one could easily go either way in my opinion.

Oh...I hear that the Vikings are benching McNab this week in favor of the new guy.

[surgicalstrike]

Boller should do just as well as starting QB for Oakland.

Scratch that.. they picked up Palmer !! Bet he's glad to come home and get the hell out of Cincy. At 31 he should be at prime but starting him already may be a mistake. I'd go with Boller (who has been taking snaps with the team since training camp) and pull him in favor of Palmer if he proves useless.

[proper stranger]

Good to have some action back on this thread..even if it is at the last moment..Got any upsets or other preditions for this week Surg?.....anyone?

[Zeabot]

pull him in favor of Palmer if he proves useless.
I think I have heard they are starting Boller this week. But you can believe the rest of the season is Palmer's. You don't give up a first round pick (possibly 2) for a bench warmer. I'm iffy on this guy, though. Ever since his playoff injury, Palmer has been garbage.

And Proper, the Vikes are starting Ponder this week. I think he'll make a lot of mistakes, but he's your future, so time to get a glimpse of the beast.

[Zeabot]

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=312950099
I guess I was wrong.

[proper stranger]

I guess I was wrong.

I guess you were...so was I.

Final:
WI 31 - MI ST. 37

I hope to be wrong on my prediction for the Packers vs Vikings game as well.

[Zeabot]

Packers vs Vikings game as well.
Me too!




Final:
WI 31 - MI ST. 37
Did you watch this game? I was heartbroken. What a dumb way to lose.

[surgicalstrike]

.Got any upsets or other preditions for this week Surg?.


Look for Houston to beat Tenn at Tenn. Would also luv to see the Jets upend Chargers, the fish to toss Denver and the Rams bonk Dallas.

In a week where 28 point favorite Oklahoma loses to Texas Tech..anything can happen.

[proper stranger]

Did you watch this game? I was heartbroken.

Right up to the bitter end...I know how ya' feel.

No national championship for the Badgers this year..But the Rose Bowl(assuming they get there) isn't a bad place to end up either.
I don't think they will lose again this year.

[proper stranger]

Rams bonk Dallas.

I hope you are right on this one.
I very much dislike the Cowboys...almost as much as the Packers..

That Oklahoma vs Texas Tech game was a nice surprise!

[CrAnIuM]

Pssst ...

If you guys use the social media links at the bottom to promote this thread to the world that would be really cool.

K... byeeee~!

[proper stranger]

I'm really not sure if you are being serious or sarcastic with this one.
Either way...been there, done that...
I would hope the other frequent posters to this thread would do the same.

[proper stranger]

Look for Houston to beat Tenn at Tenn. Would also luv to see the Jets upend Chargers

Nice calls..I would have went the other way with both.

I was hoping to be wrong with my pick of the Packers over the Vikings..but I wasn't.
Final:
Packers 33 - Vikings 27
Closer than I thought it would be....but a loss is a loss, by 20+ or by 6.
No style points allowed.

Ponder looked to have potential...I guess we'll see how that works out..gives me hope for the future though.

[Zeabot]

I have only been a so~so baseball fan these last two years, but I have to last, I watched the game last night. While part of me wants to say it was an awesome game, the other part of me wants to say it was horrible. Twice the Rangers had them on the ropes, twice they let them off with bad defensive plays and pitching mistakes. That is all.

Football time! I have big predictions this week.
NCAA:
Nebraska > MSU
KSU > Oklahoma
USC > Stanford
NFL:
Carolina > Vikings
Denver > Detroit
Cleveland > SF
Dallas > Philly

[surgicalstrike]

This should be a comeback week for the better teams..Oklahoma will beat K-State by at least three td's as will Wisconsin over Ohio St. The odds makers have made Nebr a 4 point favorite over Mich St?? This tells me they are bringing in the rubes who ALL will be taking the points and betting Mich St. Staying away from it but big red should cover. I also think Washington will mop up Arizona.


On the pro scene one game jumps out at me..NO at Rams. NO crushed Indy 62-7. While the Rams lost 34-7 in Dallas last week. NO should be favored by at least 20 yet are only at 13.5.

Now if my rube theory holds any water take the Rams, they might not win it but it should be a close game as Vegas doesn't like giving out money.

Fuck it, I'll say the Rams straight up win it....maybe the world series champs left enough magic dust in that St. Louis air for the hard luck Rams to get a win.




Carolina > Vikings

Car is favored by 3.5 and looked good last week but I think Minn has enough in the tank to beat this team.

[Zeabot]

Fuck it, I'll say the Rams straight up win it....maybe the world series champs left enough magic dust in that St. Louis air for the hard luck Rams to get a win.
That made me lol.



Car is favored by 3.5 and looked good last week but I think Minn has enough in the tank to beat this team.
I guess it is too early for Ponder to judge the whole team correctly. Last week they played GB hard, but so did Carolina in week 2 (3?). Either way, I'm expecting a shoot out. The over is 46.5. I'd definitely take that.

[proper stranger]

Better late than never...

I've got:
WI over Ohio St.
USC will upset Standford..

Anyone think WI will go down to Ohio St.?....
Make me a prediction I can't refuse...hahahaaa

In the NFL
I've got the Vikings over the Panthers...Ponder will have a good game...but A.P. will be the deciding factor in a big way.... Not sure if I'd call this one an upset or not though.
The Patriots will beat the Steelers.
Giants over Dolphins
Chiefs lose to Chargers
Cowboys top Eagles.
The Lions over the Broncos

Surg..Rams??...and straight up at that..nice call if it comes through.
Hey Z...This must be your upset week.

[Zeabot]

KSU > Oklahoma
Uhh...

[surgicalstrike]

Anyone think WI will go down to Ohio St.?

I didn't as I still recall the way they looked against Nebr. Now all of a sudden they seem beatable ?!

USC got fucked on that final second to try a field goal before OT, as the coach called his final time-out when the player didn't get out of bounds. Oh well, it still would of been a long FG (50 or so yards) but would of been interesting to see it.

[Zeabot]

Now all of a sudden they seem beatable ?!
They seem very beatable. They were playing shutdown D with a high octane offense. Now their offense is playing so-so and their D is no where to be seen.

[proper stranger]

USC got fucked on that final second to try a field goal before OT

I saw that. But what an exciting game...I wish it was still going on! I'm transfering it to dvd, and adding it to my collection..
It isn't easy to get into that collection.

[proper stranger]

They seem very beatable. They were playing shutdown D with a high octane offense. Now their offense is playing so-so and their D is no where to be seen.

It's Wisconsin.
They are to busy thinking about cow tipping and eating polish sausages to keep their minds on the game, aay...

[Zeabot]

Fuck it, I'll say the Rams straight up win it.
... Who... are... you...?

[proper stranger]

Fuck it, I'll say the Rams straight up win it....maybe the world series champs left enough magic dust in that St. Louis air for the hard luck Rams to get a win.

Magic dust indeed..Nice call!

[surgicalstrike]

.Oklahoma

Nebr

Wisconsin

Washington

Rams.

Minn

Pure luck is all @ 5 and 1, could have been 1 and 5 just as easily. Ha @ all the rubes who thought they had a sure thing with NO and Mich St. this week..just goes to show there is NEVER a sure thing.

[surgicalstrike]

Congrats KC on beating SD on Halloween. Next into town is the winless fish while GB is down in SD, looks like KC will have the AFC lead all to themselves..not ! GB is coming off the bye and teams have not looked good so far this year after the time off. I won't say GB will lose, but will have a tough go in SD. Oakland has the best chance to move to 5-3 with a win over the donkeys although it's hard to beat a team 4 times in a row and with Mcfadden possibly out, I'd have to go with the 9 points..hope I'm wrong. I will say that certain teams seem to have the others number, such is the case with my two picks this week:

Miami over KC

Baltimore over Pittsburgh

[Firestorm]

Baltimore over Pittsburgh

I wouldn't put a lot of money on this one either way. I'd say it's a pretty equal match.

[Zeabot]

Miami over KC

Baltimore over Pittsburgh
I disagree with both. I also think GB will win huge over SD.

My upset pick is the Bears over Philly. While the Eagles are playing much better than before, they are still the same team fundamentally. Weak offense/defensive lines. Forte will have a monster day and we will keep Vick contained, possibly injure him again. All other games this week seem pretty tame. But I've been incredible wrong throughout this entire season so... whatever.

[proper stranger]

we will keep Vick contained, possibly injure him again.

I agree with that....
Bears over Eagles
Raiders over Broncos
Steelers will send Ravens home with a loss

Packers lose to Chargers.....upset

Vikings are having a bye week...I don't like that very much..not sure yet which game I'll be looking at this week.


College Ball
WI will be back in the win column against Purdue
LSU over Alabama...
NW to beat Neb...upset

Your right Z...Most of the other games this week don't seem to add up to much.

[surgicalstrike]

LSU over Alabama...
NW to beat Neb...upset


Hmm, I'll go opposite..Bama wins a tight one, while big red steam rolls NW.

Also like the sun devils to pitchfork da bruins just like they did to USC.

USC is playing Friday btw @ Colorado :

Now after a game like last week, USC have got to be a little let down and going in to play a sucky team like Colorado should have them feeling better, I just hope they can actually get 'up' mentally for the game.

The Buffalo's on the other hand are coming home after being whacked with that pitchfork I mentioned earlier and before that got basically shut out at home against Oregon.

So where is the motivation for USC ? Colorado is just looking for their first conference win, that and to NOT be embarrassed AGAIN.

Do I see an upset ? No.

Do I see a closer game than the 22 points the oddsmakers have handed out ? You bet your honky ass I do.

Final score: USC 38 Col 27

[proper stranger]

Miami over KC

Now there's a bold prediction.

If this one comes to be, I may start calling you Jimmy the Greek.

[Zeabot]

Jimmy the Greek.
If this call is right, I'm going to start using his predictions with real money.

[surgicalstrike]

Ha, ^^

I wouldn't do that, just fun to see how the games turn out.



Final score: USC 38 Col 27

Like this one which ended up USC 42 Col 17, I was close but no cigar...

USC surprised me as they showed no signs of let down from last week and even in that frozen hell hole, Matt Barkley threw for a new school record-6 TD passes.

However Col did have TWO chip shot FG attempts BLOCKED which would have had them within the spread.

Them is the breaks, so don't go putting down $$

[proper stranger]

NW to beat Neb...upset

I hate to toot my own horn, but...honk honk..

[CrAnIuM]

^ Would that not be 'toot' toot' instead?

[surgicalstrike]

College Ball
WI will be back in the win column against Purdue
LSU over Alabama...
NW to beat Neb...upset

3/3 = A+


Would that not be 'toot' toot' instead?

100% toot

[Zeabot]

Matt Barkley threw for a new school record-6 TD passes.
I thought this guy was a joke when he first came on. Now he is looking pretty legit.

[Zeabot]

What the fuck. Surg, you are crazy.

[surgicalstrike]

<tbody>



Miami +4
500
WON
+500














New Orleans -9
500
WON
+500














Atlanta -7
500
WON
+500














Houston -10.5
500
WON
+500














N.Y. Jets +1
500
WON
+500














San Francisco -3.5
500
WON
+500














Seattle +12
500
WON
+500














Cincinnati +3
500
WON
+500














Denver +9
500
WON
+500














New England -9
500
LOSS
-550














Arizona -3.5
500
WON
+500














Green Bay -5.5
500
WON
+500














Baltimore +3.5
500
WON
+500

</tbody>





My week was crazy, here is my tally from a league I'm in , went 12 and 1 with NE letting me down and for Mon I got VVV Made all these picks on the same day mind you so now I really doubt da bears pick will come through, plus I suck on MNF.



<tbody>

8:30 PM ET
Chicago +7
500

</tbody>




MNF: the spread is up to (two) 9 now, but if I was to put money on the game I'd put the bank on Philly to cover because going 13 and 1 against the spread in one week is fucking insane !!

[proper stranger]

^
^
^
^......Now I know Jimmy the Greek is swinging from some branch of your family tree.
........Nicely done Surg!

[surgicalstrike]

<tbody>
Chicago +7
500
WON
+500

</tbody>


http://swollencranium.com/forums/images/icons/creepy.jpg

[surgicalstrike]

Oakland @ San Diego


The Raiders are getting 7 points on the road and have two division losses in a row. The Chargers are coming off two losses as well (one division and one out of conference) and will be hungry to avenge the two losses they suffered last year by the silver and black.

Bad news for Oakland is Mcfadden is still out, yet they still should have beat the donkeys if the defense would have shown up. The last time the defense let a win get away was in Buffalo and the week following that the defense showed up big time and clobbered the red hot NY Jets.

Last week was SD's suberbowl as they played the best team in the NFL thus far..GB !! After giving a hell of a scare to the Packers they still came up short and have got to be a bit let down.

I say Norv Turner gets out coached by Hue Jackson in this one, and a tired offensive line for San Diego gets punished by a hungry Raider Defense and (hopefully) with some better judgment by the corners.
Let's also not forget Carson Palmer, who is only in his 2nd start and should look even better this week as more of the long off-season (retired) rust should be gone.

They say never bet with your heart and that's true, but with both teams at 4-4, it's not like SD is any better than last year, while the Raiders have improved minus Asamawhatevathefuck his name was that went to Philly. <---good to see him fuck up against da Bears Mon Night.

Should be a close game but I think we might see a surprise 10+ victory for Oakland !!


GO RAIDERS...Just Win Baby !

[Zeabot]

Should be a close game but I think we might see a surprise 10+ victory for Oakland !!
I think you are correct on this one. SD is playing red hot, but have not been able to finish. Rivers is still playing like poo-poo, too. But the biggest reason I think this will be a Raider victory: this is SD's 3rd game in 11 days (MNF --> Sunday --> Thursday).

So I'm checking the spreads for the upcoming week and have noticed a few funnies. Miami is -3.5 at home against Washington, Carolina is at home against Tennessee and is -2.5.

Anyways, here it goes:
NYG upends SF
Bears get revenge over Lions
Buffalo destroys Dallas
and finally, my upset pick, is Seattle over Baltimore.

[proper stranger]

Mcfadden is still out

I don't like the Raiders chances without him.


MNF --> Sunday --> Thursday).

The Chargers have to be one tired team after that schedule.
I don't like their chances either.



I'm going to go way out on a limb here:
I don't like either teams chances to win this one....I don't know when the last tie in the NFL was....but I do believe the next one will be tonight, in a battle of field goals.

[surgicalstrike]

Fuck Yeah !!

Raiders are Leading AFC west. Got to love all the breaks and non holding calls given to SD as that O-line had no chance at stopping Seymour, Wimbley, Houston and co without holding. True you could probably say that on every down of every NFL game, but this was obvious to even the SD media.

Palmer is getting slowly back to form and that interception was only due to being hit at the perfect time to alter the pass, as a Raider was open in the end zone. And that fumble (as he was about to pass) another perfect timing hit...neither one his fault.

I see back to back wins as they play Minn next week. Sorry Prop but the silver and black are getting back to glory, albeit slowly.


The Chargers are coming off two losses as well (one division and one out of conference)

Mistake..three losses (one division, TWO out of conference) now make it 2 and 2 !

BTW fuck you SD and all their fans :)




So I'm checking the spreads for the upcoming week and have noticed a few funnies. Miami is -3.5 at home against Washington, Carolina is at home against Tennessee and is -2.5.


What's funny about them?

[Zeabot]

What's funny about them?
Tennessee has played some great games this season and are still in a playoff hunt. Carolina (besides Newton and Steve Smith) has played like doo-doo.
Miami is awful... terribly awful. Granted Washington has been pretty bad, too, but their defense is certainly better. I think Washington wins by 7+.

[surgicalstrike]

Detroit @ Chicago..sometimes making the correct pick is as simple as looking at the team names and deciding which would win in a real life battle (not really but I'm lazy today) and in this case I think a lion would conquer a bear.

Mon night.. what the hell, I'll take Prop's woeful Vikings and +13 points and hope they get a win before facing the silver and black.

[proper stranger]

Mon night.. what the hell, I'll take Prop's woeful Vikings and +13 points and hope they get a win before facing the silver and black.
I sadly pick the Packers to beat the Vikings..Surg...I think you greatly under-estimated the Vikings talent for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Now, next week......

[surgicalstrike]

Now, next week......

Palmer shines like a fucking rock star ??

..or..

Mcfadden is back and dominates with a vengeance ??

[Zeabot]

Palmer shines like a fucking rock star ??
That one

[surgicalstrike]

a lion would conquer a bear.

Fiddle sticks..wonder if I'll go 0-2 ?

[surgicalstrike]

pick the Packers to beat the Vikings.

Indeed !!

Just wanted them to win one before the Raiders head out, knew better but I'll take an off week 0-2.

Oakland opened up getting a point on the road in Minn. I'll take that but shouldn't need it as the Raiders should win this one if they're to be taken serious as a legitimate playoff team.

Thurs Night: NY Jets @ Denver..Jets are favored by 4.5 and should cover on the road as I just can't see Denver's offense keeping up.

Sun: Don't really see much interesting but my upset lock would have to be SD over Chicago, the Chargers are getting 3.5 on the road and have lost 4 in a row. This is a must win and I don't see them losing 5 in a row...but I wouldn't mind if they did.

Dallas (-9) is at Washington and should cover easy right ? Doubt that, I'm taking the 9 and although the Cowboys will probably win...it won't be by more than a TD.

Seattle @ Rams : Not sure how the Rams will fuck this up but they will. Taking Seattle.

Wow, Buffalo sure has went downhill fast...even a 1 point dog in Miami this week. Bills should get healthy on some fish and win easily.

[BeeJay]

pick the Packers
i really hate the packers but i have to say that i believe they are going to win everything. right through the playoffs and super bowl. how disgusting is that.

[proper stranger]

i really hate the packers but i have to say that i believe they are going to win everything. right through the playoffs and super bowl. how disgusting is that.

Very disgusting!....but I do agree.

College Ball:
I'm going with WI over Illinois
MI over Neb

Tonight I'll go with the Broncos over the Jets.
Sunday will see the Chargers fall to the Bears.

And, of course, my upset pick....The Vikings over the Raiders.


Read ya' after the game, Surg...

[Zeabot]

playoffs and super bowl
Way too soon for that.




Tonight I'll go with the Broncos over the Jets.
I've been uber busy, so I have not paid much attention to this week in football. I think the Jets will win, but not cover the spread.
Carolina > Detroit,
Arizona > SF

[proper stranger]

Carolina > Detroit,

I believe I'll go the other way with this one.


I have not paid much attention to this week in football.

Hahahaaa...I guess not.
I see you didn't even have the time time time to make a prediction in your your beloved Bears game..

I thought you had fallen and couldn't get up!!

Hope you can can find the time to watch anyhow...
Should be a good one.
I'm looking foreward to watching Rivers slowly get disremembered by the Bears D....

[Zeabot]

I know it sounds really worthless to say, but the Bears game can go in any possible direction. The Bears could implode and the Chargers could find their talent and it would be a blow out Chargers win. On the other hand, if the Chargers and Bears play the way they have been lately, it will be a Bears blow out. OOOOOOR it can be anything in between. I'm looking for a Bears win, though, since so many Chargers are out and Rivers is a bitch.

[surgicalstrike]

College Ball:
I'm going with WI over Illinois
MI over Neb

Nice, I forgot the college....Loved USC +14.5 @ Oregon but that's easy to say after the fact. With all the upsets this week it looks like LSU has the title wrapped up.. gonna go out on a limb and say Bama wins the national championship right now.

Good luck against the Spartans :( fucking big red took a dump.

[proper stranger]

Tomorrow = turkey and football...What more could one ask for?...wait!! Don't answer that!

Anyhow...
We should have a fine day of upsets to watch while enjoying the feast.

Lions over Packers
Dolphins over Cowboys...

Enjoy!

................
...
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.
.
..
and...
Happy Thanksgiving to you Mj...where ever you are.

[surgicalstrike]

^^ You forgot the main game, a duel between brothers...49'ers vs. Ravens...I'm gonna say Balt over gaycisco ftw.

I could see your two upsets happening Prop..lion + dolphin equals catfish. Yeehaw Mj da boys going down !


Happy Turducket Madden..Miss ya, Raiders could use you in the front office..please contact the Davis family...they know you'll always bleed silver 'n black.

[surgicalstrike]

I'm looking for a Bears win, though, since so many Chargers are out and Rivers is a bitch.

Good call, didn't see Chargers losing that one...I heard Norv Turner is already job hunting, maybe Penn St would take him, don't think he's a chester.. but could be wrong.

I don't see the Bears beating Oakland this Sunday.

[proper stranger]

^^ You forgot the main game, a duel between brothers...49'ers vs. Ravens

Nope...
I just know how much you love the 49ers, and left that one for you....

[CrAnIuM]

Note:

I'm working on a thing that will allows you dudes to place an icon of your favorites teams in your post bit area.

( kinda like I have my PSN and steam icons) I'll update when ready.

[proper stranger]

That would be most excellent!

Hell Yeah............

[Zeabot]

I really want to say the Lions will beat the Pack today, but alas I cannot. I think it will be a very high scoring, fun game, though. I think Miami has a good shot against Dallas since they always blow the big games when people have high expectations for them. Also, I think the Ravens will win, they always play better against the good teams and I still REFUSE to believe the 49ers are legit.
Secondly, I predict Chicago and Houston to lose this week, followed by much crying about the QB situation.

[proper stranger]

No college ball predictions?

Fuck it then.....
Maybe I'll make a NFL prediction tomorrow.

[surgicalstrike]

Not really good with college but here's two late freebies, fuck ucla they don't count and usc wins easily.

1- Wis outlasts the child moles.

2- Luck of the irish proves true vs. the over hyped qb as the 'S' tree gets chopped down.

[surgicalstrike]

Aw, the luck was on the other side and ruined a perfect three pick..it was awesome to see ucl g(a)y get their shit pushed in. See ya in the NFL Matt, there is no way in this economy he will be back next year at USC. It's a business decision that's not hard to make, play for free with a bunch of IF's and lose out on one year of top NFL salary or start getting paid..duh, it's a no brainer and I think some teams might take him ahead of Luck who didn't beat ND like a man on a mission to wrap up the Heisman. Plus he's white which carries a low jokemarcus russle (I'll just take the money and not give it my all cause I'm nothing but a lazy/stupid nigger) factor.

This whole Sun schedule and Mon night scare me, I can see every game going either way and like the points in almost every match-up. I really have a weird feeling that KC will upset Pitt or at the very least will not lose by much. I'm also worried that without McFaddon the Raiders may be in trouble, but I'll stick with them to win this one ugly. Did anyone else notice the Denver D kick the shit outta NY Jets ? I thought SD would get a win last week but after 5 losses in a row they come home to face the upstart donkeys, doubt they will cover but I'm betting they don't lose 6 in a row. I also thought Buff would wake up and smell the fish..nope they're sleeping with the fish, not getting fooled with the points this week..9.5 is waaay high though for a beat up Jets squad to cover, or is it? I'd put the cash on NY. Let's not forget the shit bowl.......

AZ @ Stl ::drum roll:: and the winner is : Rams by a fart.

Mon night I'll take the G-men only because thier defense is better, won't lose three in a row and NO is due for a home loss. Forget the 7.5 points you won't need 'em...typical vegas mindfuck, you could probably do the reverse tease and get NO plus the 7.5 and put down your bank account and still lose. Put the bank on NY.

[proper stranger]

I don't see much that interests me this week.

Falcons over Vikings..AP will not play today.
Chicago and Okland?...I think it could either way.....I'm betting on the Bears to win.
Denver over San Diego..

[surgicalstrike]

Lol at SD and Rams...WOW, they both suck hard !! Only reason I gave slight nod to Rams was they were at home and didn't think even they would blow this last chance to get a win this season after they fucked away the last game. And SD ?? LMAO and now they are going to be in the spotlight next Mon Night are they going to go for 7 in a row ??

I'll update this chart later but I see one game that is a fucking lock and another one that history says ohh fuck !!

This weeks Mon night game is up to 9 points now for NYG..I'll wait to see the outcome but the rubes are betting heavy on NO aints.





<tbody>

Oakland
+1
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Miami
-1
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Over
42.5
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Under
42.5
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<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29518_1_rdoTotals3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29518_1$grpTotals" value="rdoTotals3" checked="checked" type="radio">





1:00 PM
Tennessee
+1
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Buffalo
-1
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<select name="ctl00$ucPicks29520_1$ctl11" class="textbox"> <option value="100">100</option> <option value="200">200</option> <option value="300">300</option> <option value="400">400</option> <option selected="selected" value="500">500</option> </select>
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29520_1_rdoSides3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29520_1$grpSides" value="rdoSides3" checked="checked" type="radio">



Over
43.5
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Under
43.5
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<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29520_1_rdoTotals3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29520_1$grpTotals" value="rdoTotals3" checked="checked" type="radio">





1:00 PM
N.Y. Jets
-3
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Washington
+3
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<select name="ctl00$ucPicks29522_1$ctl11" class="textbox"> <option value="100">100</option> <option value="200">200</option> <option value="300">300</option> <option value="400">400</option> <option selected="selected" value="500">500</option> </select>
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29522_1_rdoSides3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29522_1$grpSides" value="rdoSides3" checked="checked" type="radio">



Over
37.5
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Under
37.5
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<select name="ctl00$ucPicks29522_1$ctl25" class="textbox"> <option value="100">100</option> <option value="200">200</option> <option value="300">300</option> <option value="400">400</option> <option selected="selected" value="500">500</option> </select>
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29522_1_rdoTotals3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29522_1$grpTotals" value="rdoTotals3" checked="checked" type="radio">





1:00 PM
Carolina
+3.5
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Tampa Bay
-3.5
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29525_1_rdoSides2" name="ctl00$ucPicks29525_1$grpSides" value="rdoSides2" type="radio">
<select name="ctl00$ucPicks29525_1$ctl11" class="textbox"> <option value="100">100</option> <option value="200">200</option> <option value="300">300</option> <option value="400">400</option> <option selected="selected" value="500">500</option> </select>
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29525_1_rdoSides3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29525_1$grpSides" value="rdoSides3" checked="checked" type="radio">



Over
48
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Under
48
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29525_1_rdoTotals2" name="ctl00$ucPicks29525_1$grpTotals" value="rdoTotals2" type="radio">
<select name="ctl00$ucPicks29525_1$ctl25" class="textbox"> <option value="100">100</option> <option value="200">200</option> <option value="300">300</option> <option value="400">400</option> <option selected="selected" value="500">500</option> </select>
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29525_1_rdoTotals3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29525_1$grpTotals" value="rdoTotals3" checked="checked" type="radio">





1:00 PM
Indianapolis
+21
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New England
-21
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29531_1_rdoSides2" name="ctl00$ucPicks29531_1$grpSides" value="rdoSides2" type="radio">
<select name="ctl00$ucPicks29531_1$ctl11" class="textbox"> <option value="100">100</option> <option value="200">200</option> <option value="300">300</option> <option value="400">400</option> <option selected="selected" value="500">500</option> </select>
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29531_1_rdoSides3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29531_1$grpSides" value="rdoSides3" checked="checked" type="radio">



Over
48
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Under
48
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<select name="ctl00$ucPicks29531_1$ctl25" class="textbox"> <option value="100">100</option> <option value="200">200</option> <option value="300">300</option> <option value="400">400</option> <option selected="selected" value="500">500</option> </select>
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29531_1_rdoTotals3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29531_1$grpTotals" value="rdoTotals3" checked="checked" type="radio">





4:05 PM
Baltimore
-6.5
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Cleveland
+6.5
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<select name="ctl00$ucPicks29524_1$ctl11" class="textbox"> <option value="100">100</option> <option value="200">200</option> <option value="300">300</option> <option value="400">400</option> <option selected="selected" value="500">500</option> </select>
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Over
37
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Under
37
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<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29524_1_rdoTotals3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29524_1$grpTotals" value="rdoTotals3" checked="checked" type="radio">





4:15 PM
Dallas
-6
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Arizona
+6
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29528_1_rdoSides2" name="ctl00$ucPicks29528_1$grpSides" value="rdoSides2" type="radio">
<select name="ctl00$ucPicks29528_1$ctl11" class="textbox"> <option value="100">100</option> <option value="200">200</option> <option value="300">300</option> <option value="400">400</option> <option selected="selected" value="500">500</option> </select>
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29528_1_rdoSides3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29528_1$grpSides" value="rdoSides3" checked="checked" type="radio">



Over
45.5
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Under
45.5
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4:15 PM
St. Louis
+13.5
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San Francisco
-13.5
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Over
38
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Under
38
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<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29530_1_rdoTotals3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29530_1$grpTotals" value="rdoTotals3" checked="checked" type="radio">


Monday, December 5






Time
Away
Line
Pick
Home
Line
Pick
Amount
No Pick


8:30 PM
San Diego
-1.5
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Jacksonville
+1.5
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<select name="ctl00$ucPicks29532_1$ctl21" class="textbox"> <option value="100">100</option> <option value="200">200</option> <option value="300">300</option> <option value="400">400</option> <option selected="selected" value="500">500</option> </select>
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29532_1_rdoSides3" name="ctl00$ucPicks29532_1$grpSides" value="rdoSides3" checked="checked" type="radio">



Over
40
<input id="ctl00_ucPicks29532_1_rdoTotals1" name="ctl00$ucPicks29532_1$grpTotals" value="rdoTotals1" type="radio">
Under
40

</tbody>

[surgicalstrike]

Mon night I'll take the G-men

Scratch that. O.o



<tbody>





-7/105




-7.5/115




-7.5/110




-7.5/105




-7.5/105




-8/110




-8.5/105




-9/110




-7.5/-102




-7.5/-102




-7.5/-102




-7.5/-101




-7.5/105




-7.5/106




-7/-105




-7/-105




-7/-105




-7/-102

</tbody>

Look at the line moves, it gradually went to nine then fell hard back to 7 ..evidently more money was on the Giants in this one. If it hadn't fell and say even increased to 10 or so I still say NY would have won. Funny how that can happen when $$ is on the line. You really think this same team (NO) actually lost to the Rams by chance ? Hells no !

[proper stranger]

Scratch that. O.o

Too late. O.o


I don't have a clue what your numbers game here means.
I know it has something to do with gambling...and little to do with the sport itself.
The way I understand football, or any other game for that matter, is that who ever has the most points at the end wins...if by 1 or by 21..

I can't say much more about this, because(as I said)I don't have a clue what the number game you have listed here means...except that you can win and still lose..and you can lose and still win..
Goes against the laws of physics.

Educate me if you can.

[Zeabot]

It's about picking against a spread. It would be too easy to bet each week if you could just say the Packers are going to beat the Rams or something. So the spread (usually) goes with the home team, either +/- to points. For example, the Monday night game, San Diego @ Jacksonville has Jacksonville +1.5. This means that Jacksonville is essentially given an extra 1.5 points at the end of the game (for betting purposes only, of course). So, if the score ends up Chargers 21 - Jaguars 20, the Chargers win the game, but people who bet on them would have lost. It works the opposite way for the -. The reason it has half points is to avoid ties (IE if it was -1 for the spread and the score was Chargers 21 - Jaguars 20 again, no one would win.)
The other number is the over/under for points scored. That one is pretty self-explanatory.

Okay, so the meat and potatoes: my first legit picks in two weeks.
Thursday night has been upset city, so I am picking the Seahawks at home against the lowly Eagles.
The Bears bounce back to crush the Chiefs by 15+.
The Ravens falter against the Browns.
Finally, the Pack make the Giants look worse than NO did last night.

[proper stranger]

San Diego @ Jacksonville has Jacksonville +1.5. This means that Jacksonville is essentially given an extra 1.5 points at the end of the game (for betting purposes only, of course). So, if the score ends up Chargers 21 - Jaguars 20, the Chargers win the game, but people who bet on them would have lost.

Got it..Vegas style.

I have the Eagles over the Seahawks
I would like to watch the Vikings win one this week...but I don't think I will. The Broncos should have no trouble defeating the Vikings.
The Dolphins fall to the Raiders.
Bears over Chiefs.
The Packers will destroy the Giants.
Lions go down hard to the Saints.

Just one for college ball...
WI defeats MI St. in the 1st ever Big Ten Championship Game....

[surgicalstrike]

The Dolphins fall to the Raiders.


Damn you !!

You've been wrong just about everytime you have picked for/against the Raiders. What are you trying to do..jinx 'em ?

[surgicalstrike]

Miami Dolphins (7-9 in 2010)


Last Time Defeated by Raiders: 2007 at Miami; Oakland 35 - Miami 17
Current Win Streak: Miami (2)
Last Five Meetings: Dolphins 4-1

2002 at Miami: Raiders 17 - Dolphins 23
2005 at Oakland: Raiders 21 - Dolphins 33
2007 at Miami: Raiders 35 - Dolphins 17
2008 at Miami: Raiders 15 - Dolphins 17
2010 at Oakland: Raiders 17 - Dolphins 33


I have a bad feeling about this game, therefor will have no official pick..but I hope you're right Prop.

Next week I may have a different outlook when they travel to GB.

[surgicalstrike]

The Broncos should have no trouble defeating the Vikings. I don't know about this, it just seems too easy. Den + 1 is def the public pic but I think you'll have a nice surprise come Sun. Did you see the Thurs night halftime talk between Kurt Warner and McNabb ? I think this guy will do good if Ponder stalls..he seems READY to win again.


Btw...after last nights loss, the Eagles play just might of sealed Andy Reids fate ! It was a 'fun' chippy game to watch though.

[CrAnIuM]

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I am man, hear me roar !

[proper stranger]

I am man, hear me roar !
About fucking time!

[proper stranger]

. Did you see the Thurs night halftime talk between Kurt Warner and McNabb ? I think this guy will do good if Ponder stalls..he seems READY to win again.


Btw...after last nights loss, the Eagles play just might of sealed Andy Reids fate !

I saw the game but skipped the pre game and half time shows. I am damn sick and tired of watching the prima-donnas who man those shows act like they are the fucking stars and main attraction instead of the game. Waiting for them to tell me something useful and/or entertaining takes longer than talking John Madden into getting on a plane.

I have always thought that McNab and Reid were extremely overrated.

[Josie]

well... it's a bit late... but I figure I should at least attempt to bump this thread every now and then...








LONGHORNS !!!!!

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Hellz YEAH ! :khi8g:

[Firestorm]

^^

Hell yeah!

[surgicalstrike]

So Oakland is going to Green Bay and the NFL hasn't ruled on Seymour yet, he may have to sit this one out due to a suspension for a hit in the Miami game. Mcfaddon is still listed as doubtful which is the same as the Raiders chances in this one.

GB is taking a sigh of relief after almost falling in NY.

Let's look at some numbers..the Pack is 12-0 while Oak is 7-5

Last five games against GB ? Oak is 0-5

Go back to 6th matchup was 1987 when Oak went into GB and came out with a 20-0 shut-out of the cheese men. That was when Bo Jackson was in the house, which Mcfadden reminds me of with that over powering prensence.

I had a bad feeling last week and I really think a healthy team would give GB problems. I see Carson showing up Sunday ready to stick to Hue's game plan. Also, GB's defense looked suspect and you know Oak is going over the game film for that NY showing. I like the fact it's week 13 which goes well for Oakland, also they're due to win while GB is due to lose. I have a good feeling this week that it all comes together for the silver and black, as the defense steps up and makes life hard for Rodgers. Personally a loss would be good for GB as the unbeaten factor would be gone and they can focus on the playoffs instead of a streak.

I like Oakland to win it after coming off a loss and getting a chance for redemption on the beat up Packers who will be hard pressed to give it their all when they know the playoffs are already in hand. Plus the way Denver has bounced back, it's a must win to keep pace if Oak wants to win the AFC division..which will probably be needed to get into the playoffs.

[Zeabot]

I like Oakland to win it after coming off a loss and getting a chance for redemption
Dang. Pretty bold prediction man!

I think this weeks matchups are insanely difficult. There are a lot that can go either way.
Notably, I'm going to pick the Browns over Pitt tonight, as Thursday Night Football is upset city.
Houston over Cinci -- this is a tough one. Houston has been devastated by injuries, but TJ Yates played OK and they still have the best run game and defense in the league.
Vikings are going to beat the Lions. The Lions are imploding and it is not like the Vikings are pathetically a 2 win team... in a way, they are still some-what respectable.
Miami over Philly, since Miami is still playing hot like fire.
My other upset is Carolina over Atlanta, to help the Bears' playoff chances.

On another note, though it DOES deal with this weeks picks, I predict the Broncos will not win another game. They will suffer a crushing defeat this week against the Bears and Bronco-Nation will have to get off Tebow's schlong.

[surgicalstrike]

Notably, I'm going to pick the Browns over Pitt tonight, as Thursday Night Football is upset city.


I won this game with the +14 ..great game, Cleve's defense was awesome but does McCoy have the downs ? Looks like it in the face dept.

Hope you're right about the donkeys.

[Zeabot]

McCoy have the downs
Did you hear the story that when Harrison hit McCoy, McCoy did not remember the rest of the game this morning? Pretty fucking intense.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/12/09/mccoys-father-speaks-out-after-big-hit/

[surgicalstrike]

Fucking Moore better play as Palmer NEEDS someone to throw to who can r.a.c. also SADLY it looks as if McFadden is out so Bush needs an epic day. Seymour gets to play but hurt his knee in practice, all is not lost if #99 gets going. A key to this game is long time possesion drives, if Oak can't do that then they lose, however I believe they CAN against this defense but they still NEED to take their time or it's over.


I also like Houston over Cinci and SF over AZ big, spread is only 3.5 ! Dallas falls @ home to NY and there is no hope for the Rams on MNF

[surgicalstrike]

it's over

Yep. :(

3 and 2 on the week so all is not lost..if only the Bears rb would have stayed in bounds.. fuck.

[Zeabot]

Bears rb would have stayed in bounds
Yuck. I was furious when that happened. I cannot believe we lost that game. I, furthermore, cannot believe people credit Tebow with that win. He was POOP before the last two drives. For WHATEVER reason, the Bears were playing their Cover-2 extremely deep. Safeties were 20 yards at snap and dropping and the linebackers were 10 yards and THEY dropped back at snap. Hence, easy completions to the middle of the field.

Anyways, this week. Falcons handle the Jags, Raiders over the Lions, Cardinals over Browns, and Steelers over 49ers.

[surgicalstrike]

Where is Prop ? Hope he didn't die on us..



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Thursday, December 15




Time

Away

Line

Pick

Home

Line

Pick

Amount




8:20 PM

Jacksonville

+11

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Atlanta

-11.5


500





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42.5

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42.5

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Saturday, December 17




Time

Away

Line

Pick

Home

Line

Pick

Amount




8:20 PM

Dallas

-7


Tampa Bay

+7

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500





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47

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47

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Sunday, December 18




Time

Away

Line

Pick

Home

Line

Pick

Amount




1:00 PM

Cincinnati

-6

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St. Louis

+6


500





Over

40

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Under

40

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1:00 PM

Washington

+6.5


N.Y. Giants

-7

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500





Over

46.5

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Under

46.5

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1:00 PM

Tennessee

-6.5

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Indianapolis

+6.5


500





Over

41

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Under

41

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1:00 PM

Seattle

+3.5

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Chicago

-3.5


500





Over

36

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Under

36

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1:00 PM

Green Bay

-14

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Kansas City

+13.5


500





Over

46

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Under

46

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1:00 PM

Carolina

+6


Houston

-6.5

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500





Over

45

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Under

45

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1:00 PM

New Orleans

-7

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Minnesota

+6.5


500





Over

51.5

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51.5

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4:05 PM

Detroit

-1


Oakland

+1

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500





Over

47.5

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47.5

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4:15 PM

Cleveland

+7

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Arizona

-6.5


500





Over

37

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37

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4:15 PM

N.Y. Jets

+3

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Philadelphia

-3


500





Over

44

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44

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4:15 PM

New England

-6


Denver

+6

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500





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46

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46

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8:20 PM

Baltimore

-1.5


San Diego

+1.5

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500





Over

44.5

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44.5

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The donkey pick is for jinx purposes and I'm going to the Sun night game as my girl likes the Ravens so thought I'd jinx SD while I'm at it. Should be a good game, with the bolts sucking so much I got some season ticket holder's seats on the field level for 160.00, not bad but I don't see this game going over 45 points, if the camera pans over us, I'll be the dude flipping it off. Maybe I should wear my Raider shirt ?!

[Zeabot]

For some strange reason, I see SD waking up and scoring tons of points this week. Not necessarily winning the game, but I certainly would pick the over on that game.

Also, maybe Prop died because his Vikings are playing like poo-poo.

[proper stranger]

Also, maybe Prop died

Still alive and well...just busy as all hell.

[Zeabot]

just busy as all hell.
Yikes! I know the feeling! Good luck in whatever endeavor you've embarked on!

[proper stranger]

Thanks Z...
I work with emotionally disturbed kids.
Lots and lots of extra overtime this time of year.
Some go home for the holidays, most don't have anything to go home to.
Most of the staff here will soon be on holiday themselves...
I, on the other hand, will be working even longer hours.
I'm not complaining...just saying.
I enjoy my job for the most part.

Saints over the poo-poo Vikings...
Now there is a risky prediction.

[proper stranger]

I'm going with the Steelers over the 49ers, and the Broncos over the Patriots.
Also... Raiders over the Lions, and Bears over Seahawks.


After further consideration I'm changing my pick on the Saints vs Vikings game.
I believe the Vikings will upset the Saints at home in the dome.

[surgicalstrike]

Vikings will upset the Saints at home in the dome.

Why not, the sucky Rams did it. However they were determined to win one game at the time.

All LA is talking about is the fucking Clippers and how great they are now..still no championships. That and how Kobe is now fucked, he's worth an est 348 million and with no pre-nop, his wife is entitled half !! That bitch probably knew she was going to dump his cheating ass ten years ago..fucking $$$$ smart !

[surgicalstrike]

Worst week I've had this year..KC, um..really??



I see SD waking up and scoring tons of points this week

That they did, got to see alot of fireworks. Nice call.


MNF Pitt +3 seems odd, the way this week went SF will win by 20. I'll still take the Steelers.

[Zeabot]

SF will win by 20.
Should've stayed with this one. This was a weird fucking week, I only had 5 right against the spread. I'm awful.

Also, did you see that Johnny Knox hit? That was ridiculous and I thought for sure he was going to die.

[proper stranger]

Worst week I've had this year..

I don't think any of my predictions for this week came to be.
I was thinking about picking an upset in that Packers game. Changed my mind. Should have went with my instincts I guess..bummer. On the other hand, I'm glad as hell that the only team to go undefeated through the season, playoffs and super bowl is still the 1972 Miami Dolphins. Not that I'm a Dolphins fan or anything.. Just very much dislike the Packers.

This was a weird fucking week,

It was a strange week.
That Knox hit was wicked.
Did you guys see any of the Steelers game?
The way Roethlisberger was limping around reminded me of Billy Kilmer late in his career. Only Kilmer was more effective with the one leg dance than big Ben.

[surgicalstrike]

I like Oakland over KC this week, should be a good close game. I also like the way Seattle is playing..they will beat SF @ home.

[Zeabot]

Seattle has been playing really well... I thought they could have a big year, except for Tavaris Jackson at QB. I mean, really? That guy?
Anyways, I'll do not think that the Ravens will cover against Cleveland, though they SHOULD win. Dallas will be the Eagles. And, finally, I have NO winning 467981 -10 against the Falcons.

[surgicalstrike]

Yes !! The donkeys lost. If Oak and Den both win or lose next week they will have same record, so why would Den win the AFC west title over Oak ?? Funny that Oak could lose out again, last year they won EVERY division game and still didn't get recognized as the best in the west.

GB will probably cover the 11+ after that shocking loss last week.

Det and SF surprised me with wins ..lol @ Chargers..hope they play like that next week in Oakland.

[surgicalstrike]

Adious Oakland, get some db's in the offseason...fuck !!

Playoffs are here...1st rd : Pitt, Atl, Houston and NO will move on.

SB winner will be Balt Ravens over the Packers, not a doubt in my mind.

[Zeabot]

Pretty bold. I think you're spot on with the first round winners, but it will be interesting in the second round.

If these predictions hold true, NE will play Pittsburgh and Baltimore will play Houston. The only first round game I have hesitation with is Houston over Cinci. IF Cinci can beat Houston, then NE plays Cinci and Pitt plays Baltimore. Much more unpredictable that way.

The NFC is a little more in control. I believe GB will destroy ATL and NO will beat the 49ers.

So, the important part, who makes it to the superbowl and who wins. New Orleans upsets the Pack in Lambo. I like the Ravens, but Flacco is not a superbowl caliber QB and this is a passing league, so I am going to go with New England. New Orleans wins the SB in a crazy shoot out.

[mudman]

No one give the Giants a chance but being a die hard Giants fan, I had faith in my team. NY Rangers are looking good, Knicks are playing ok but my Mets are going to be terrible. So 3 out of my 4 teams are doing good, so I am happy.

[Zeabot]

Giants a chance
Haha, I definitely did not give them a chance. Do you blame me? They were so spotty all season. Good for them for picking it up in the playoffs!

[mudman]

Haha, I definitely did not give them a chance. Do you blame me? They were so spotty all season. Good for them for picking it up in the playoffs!No, I understand they didn't play so good in the regular season but they play the good teams hard except the Saints. I like that they talked trash all playoffs and backed it up. I am NOT saying they are going to repeat but with all the injured players coming back next season, I think they will be a threat to make some noise next season.

[Zeabot]

they will be a threat to make some noise next season.
Definitely. They need to improve in the running game and maybe add another young defensive lineman. That pass rush is pretty much the reason they are winning.

[mudman]

Definitely. They need to improve in the running game and maybe add another young defensive lineman. That pass rush is pretty much the reason they are winning.I agreed with the running game defensive linemen I don't agree with, they have a beast in a DT that got injured in preseason. They need to improve their secondary, linebackers and a decent TE. I hope Osi stays, he and JPP was one of the reason why they make it to the Super Bowl.

[Dirty Hippie]

Dammit, I knew I should have just clicked "mark all forums as read" to get rid of this notification. It's like you're talking in damn Hebrew up in here.

[Mamba]

Dammit, I knew I should have just clicked "mark all forums as read" to get rid of this notification. It's like you're talking in damn Hebrew up in here.

un-sport-aficionado hi five! **

[Zeabot]

un-sport-aficionado hi five! **
Get off our thread woman.

[Mamba]

Get off our thread woman.

Make me.

[Dirty Hippie]

You want him to make you get off? I think you have the wrong guys, they'd rather talk about sweaty musclebound men in tights wresting each other to the ground.

[Zeabot]

You want him to make you get off?
And she thinks guys are the dirty ones...

[surgicalstrike]

NHL Playoffs start this week and the LA Kings (who could have won their division but lost the last two games of season to SJ Sharks) make the cut for the third straight year.. 09-10 finished 8th and lost to Van 4 games to two..10-11 finished 7th and lost again in 1st rd to SJ 4 games to 2.. now the 11-12 season they finish 8th and have to play Vancouver again..


I say this is the year that the fink (Kings) beat the stomach -meatballs


Kings in a wild 7 to get to the 2nd round and play ??


...Let the games begin (Wed in Van 7:30 pacific time)



In the east the Phil-Pitt matchup looks interesting, also got defending champs Boston back but I'd like to see an LA-NY Stanley Cup Matchup so I'll go with the Rangers in the east.

[Mamba]

You want him to make you get off? I think you have the wrong guys, they'd rather talk about sweaty musclebound men in tights wresting each other to the ground.

Haha. You're so right.

Actually, I can't really talk, since I watched an MMA fight, and they have a habit of sitting on each others faces. :-/.. men on men... dicks squashed right into face. :-/


And she thinks guys are the dirty ones...

Oh but they are...

[Zeabot]

Hawks did exactly what they needed to do, finishing 6th. I didn't want to see the Preds in the first round and I am definitely okay with Phoenix.

I think in the west, the Preds will be really hard to beat, but shitty little teams rarely win in the NHL, so I am going with the Hawks. They have been playing pretty well lately and are getting a few key guys back from injuries just in time.

In the east, it is hard to pick against Boston. But damn, the east is so tight it is crazy.

[surgicalstrike]

the Hawks

I was at a La vs Chicago game a few years ago and still remember this odd looking fan with a point nose yelling "go hawks" and now it's a joke whenever I get around some of my old hockey buddies...remember the guy with the beak tapping on the glass...go hawks.

If the Kings can get by the Canucks, I'd love to play Sutter's old team, then again if the Kings get to the second round..I think they can go all the way to the cup.

[surgicalstrike]

Actually, I can't really talk


Sure you can, even with a cock in your mouth. I hear you got talent.


:yociexp32:

[Zeabot]

I think they can go all the way to the cup.
It would be interesting. Usually it is all about the goaltender getting hot at the right time -- and I know you got a good one.

[Mamba]

Sure you can, even with a cock in your mouth. I hear you got talent.


:yociexp32:

Oh I'm sure I'd have no problem with yours, aside from having to find it first.

[Zeabot]

no problem with yours, aside from having to find it first.
Daaaaamn. I haven't heard that burn in over a decade!

[surgicalstrike]

She wants my sausage.

[Zeabot]

She wants my sausage.
I've heard that's how girls flirt.

By the way, congrats to the Kings for owning those fucking Canucks.

[surgicalstrike]

It would be interesting. Usually it is all about the goaltender getting hot at the right time -- and I know you got a good one.

Quick is on fire, not sure I want the sweep though, as a lay off could kill the playoff momentum they got right now. Then again I don't want Van to think they have a chance of coming back...close 'em asap !!!