Six Days in Fellujah

[Negativecool]

Konami Reveals Six Days in Fallujah

If Call of Duty: Modern Warfare was a bit too fictionalized for you, Konami has the cure: The company has just revealed Six Days In Fallujah, an action game based on the worst fighting from our current war in Iraq.

Developer Atomic Games sees the title as the most realistic virtual depiction of its kind, owing to its collaboration with "three dozen" of the soldiers who were present at the battle. In fact, the game strives for such intense realism, that the dev is using material from the title to craft a military training simulation.

"We're not trying to make social commentary. We're not pro-war. We're not trying to make people feel uncomfortable. We just want to bring a compelling entertainment experience," Konami vice president Anthony Crouts told the Wall Street Journal. "At the end of the day, it's just a game."

Unfortunately for Crouts, I think parents groups and politicians may see this as an attempt at profiting from the ongoing conflict. Expect moral outrage as soon as the game hits the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and PC platforms.

Image courtesy Konami

Iraq, the Videogame [WSJ]

Source: http://blog.wired.com/games/2009/04/konami-reveals.html
Other:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123902404583292727.html

Too soon to depart from the fictitious middle eastern battles of CoD4 and "play" a real campaign from the current war?
Discuss.

[CrAnIuM]

They will not get it right.

I don't give a shit if all 870 {+ or - a few } soldiers gave personal depictions of the days spent fighting in that hell hole.

They can't reproduce ANY of the emotions of those days, currently NO simulations and certainly NO video game can illicit the raw rage, the gut churning fear, the absolute power of heroism that true combat ofter produces in surprisingly high amounts.


So, yeah sure.. its ok with me, especially since they are not the first to use real events and real people to make a video game, its been done before, with the central character being a deceased Medal of Honor recipeant from a recent conflict.

[Scarlet]

They can't reproduce ANY of the emotions of those days, currently NO simulations and certainly NO video game can illicit the raw rage, the gut churning fear, the absolute power of heroism that true combat ofter produces in surprisingly high amounts.


It must be frustrating to see movies or video games trying to portray something that happened but falling far short of the reality that you, and others, have actually experienced.
I can only imagine the kaleidescope of emotions that you brave service personnel have suffered with little appreciation from civilians.

[CrAnIuM]

It must be frustrating to see movies or video games trying to portray something that happened but falling far short of the reality that you, and others, have actually experienced.
I can only imagine the kaleidescope of emotions that you brave service personnel have suffered with little appreciation from civilians.

I don't have an issue with the specific media itself.

I do laugh when a movie portrays itself as being "based on a true story" of a story of "actual events'.

Case in point, the monstrosity of wrongitude called 'Black Hawk Down'.

Practically the only thing they got right was that an actual UH-60 was shot down.

War, is weeks and months of repetition peppered with minutes to hours of furious motion, Hollywood can't market truth.

[Scarlet]

Oh, I enjoyed "Black Hawk Down" and have seen it several times.
I thought it was a true enactment but I will accept that you know more about these things than I ever will.

[CrAnIuM]

Oh, I enjoyed "Black Hawk Down" and have seen it several times.
I thought it was a true enactment but I will accept that you know more about these things than I ever will.

I am one of those that is unable to watch a movie without making hundreds of comments on incorrect physics, incorrect mechanical motion, incorrect ballistic effects and so on ..

Black hawk down has entertainment value, little else though.

[KommieKat]

Can't wait for this game.
I hope this one will out do COD4 because that in itself was a very good game.

(This is me, sneaking on my belly through patrolling troops, with my sniper rifle. Oh Ya!!)

This site usually does good reviews of games, so maybe checking in for updates from time to time is recommended.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/sixdaysinfallujah/news.html?sid=6207454&om_act=convert&om_clk=newsfeatures&tag=newsfeatures;title

[Scarlet]

Can't wait for this game.
I hope this one will out do COD4 because that in itself was a very good game.

(This is me, sneaking on my belly through patrolling troops, with my sniper rifle. Oh Ya!!)

Yep, you have had a lifetime of practice slithering along on your belly, just like the cowardly snake you really are.

[KommieKat]

Yep, you have had a lifetime of practice slithering along on your belly, just like the cowardly snake you really are.

Us snipers gotta do what we gotta do. Fuck off, denier.

[Scarlet]

Us snipers gotta do what we gotta do. Fuck off, denier.

You couldn't snipe the head of your turd in the direction of the toilet bowl.
The general consensus is that it is YOU who should fuck off.

[KommieKat]

You couldn't snipe the head of your turd in the direction of the toilet bowl.
The general consensus is that it is YOU who should fuck off.

If I were as butt ugly as you are, supporting a crack baby while at the same time, sporting a pirate hat and a musketeer mustache, I too would be angry at the world.

[Scarlet]

If I were as butt ugly as you are, supporting a crack baby while at the same time, sporting a pirate hat and a musketeer mustache, I too would be angry at the world.

We understand your bitterness, comrade...we really do.

[KommieKat]

We understand your bitterness, comrade...we really do.


Says the one who defiles pics of the innocents, Ms. Fugly.

[Josie]

I am one of those that is unable to watch a movie without making hundreds of comments on incorrect physics, incorrect mechanical motion, incorrect ballistic effects and so on ..




hehehehe, I have ruined many a retarded movie that the hub is all pumped up about with these same comments :D

[CrAnIuM]

hehehehe, I have ruined many a retarded movie that the hub is all pumped up about with these same comments :D


Indeed.

If it's a movie at home AND I have the remote control a normal 2 hour movie could take up to 3 hours because of my pausing and adding commentary.

[Blood]

Indeed.

If it's a movie at home AND I have the remote control a normal 2 hour movie could take up to 3 hours because of my pausing and adding commentary.

Oh shit i do that too!
But then again, I'm a borderline heckler so pausing is more of a courtesy thing for me.

Back on topic: I think the idea of the video game is kinda weird but harmless.
It'll probably suck anyway so there's no point in getting all riled up about it.

[Negativecool]

Indeed.

If it's a movie at home AND I have the remote control a normal 2 hour movie could take up to 3 hours because of my pausing and adding commentary.
I'd love to sit in on that, I really would.

[Cúchulainn]

I dunno, I can't play those games anymore. I don't like watching war movies anymore, I don't like any of those first person shooter games that strive to be ultra-realistic. I don't mind Halo or stuff like that, that's obviously fiction, but I just don't like the realistic stuff.

I played Medal of Honor: Airborne for about fifteen minutes one time and couldn't sleep that night.

I don't like playing war hero so much anymore.

[Negativecool]

My two cents:
I play games for entertainment. Their whole purpose, as far as I'm concerned, is their entertainment value.
I don't have many boundaries, but playing this for entertainment would make me uncomfortable.

[Bunnee]

My opinion- This has zero impact on me whatsoever.

It was only a matter of time. Sooner or later kinda thing. It happened sooner. However that later part, maybe that they include characterizations of REAL people. Then, and only then, it might bother me.

[KommieKat]

My opinion- This has zero impact on me whatsoever.

It was only a matter of time. Sooner or later kinda thing. It happened sooner. However that later part, maybe that they include characterizations of REAL people. Then, and only then, it might bother me.


The physics and graphics are not quite clear yet.
The A.I. in games, though getting better, is just not quite there yet, either.
What you are reading is only marketing.

All companies will release lots of hype about their game before it's put out to market, with loads of bugs, only to provide updates after the money has been collected.

[Negativecool]

The physics and graphics are not quite clear yet.
Simple counter point to this idea: Even if the physics were there, they would still be incorrect as they would be dressed up "Hollywood" physics.

Apparently, watching a body fly across a room after being hit at close range with say, a combat shotgun, is much more satisfying and exciting than seeing that body lifelessly flop to the ground like cutting the strings to a puppet.

[KommieKat]

Apparently, watching a body fly across a room after being hit at close range with say, a combat shotgun, is much more satisfying and exciting than seeing that body lifelessly flop to the ground like cutting the strings to a puppet.

Yeap, you got me there.
It's like everybody is fighting on the moon or something.

[Negativecool]

****UPDATE****


Under criticism, Konami ditches realistic "Fallujah" videogame
THE ASAHI SHIMBUN


2009/4/27
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Konami Digital Entertainment Co. has decided to pull a videogame that realistically reproduces the bloody street battles between U.S. forces and terrorists and insurgents in Fallujah, Iraq, in 2004.

"After seeing the reaction to the videogame in the United States and hearing opinions sent through phone calls and e-mail, we decided several days ago not to sell it," a public relations official of Konami said. "We had intended to convey the reality of the battles to players so that they could feel what it was like to be there."

"Six Days in Fallujah," developed by U.S. company Atomic Games, was showcased earlier this month at an event in the United States for magazines specializing in the videogame industry.

Konami had planned to put the game on sale in or after 2010.

However, bereaved families of soldiers, retired troops and citizens' groups in the United States and Europe criticized the game as in poor taste and insensitive.

The fighting in Fallujah in November 2004 was among the most intense after the U.S.-led war against Iraq's regular forces ended in 2003. More than 2,000 people, including many citizens, were killed in the street battles over several weeks.

In "Six Days in Fallujah," gamers play the roles of U.S. Marines deployed on the streets to wipe out the enemy. In some situations, the players must decide whether to shoot unarmed people.

Jamin Brophy-Warren, a journalist for the Wall Street Journal and a specialist on videogames, reported that about 40 U.S. soldiers who saw action in Fallujah helped in the production of the videogame by, for example, offering their diaries and journals to Atomic Games.

The times of the battles, the locations of troops and other details in the game are extremely close to what had actually happened in Fallujah, Brophy-Warren reported.

The reporter also said several thousand photos, including satellite images classified by the U.S. military, were used in the production of "Six Days in Fallujah."

"We think Atomic Games used a network (to produce the game)," the Konami official said. "But we don't know the connection (between the company and U.S. military forces)."(IHT/Asahi: April 27,2009)

Source:
http://www.asahi.com/english/Herald-asahi/TKY200904270177.html