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SittinGrumpy
03-28-2009, 01:37 PM
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New World Trade tower drops "Freedom"
NEW YORK (Reuters) – The name "Freedom Tower" has been dropped for the skyscraper under construction in New York to replace the World Trade Center towers destroyed in the September 11 attacks, but some locals are not happy about it.
Designed amid much fanfare to symbolize the city's revival after the attacks in 2001, the tower, which will be New York's tallest building, has been beset by delays and its developer has struggled to attract tenants, due partly to fears it could be targeted for another attack.
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which is building the 1,776-foot (541-meter) skyscraper, has admitted even its own workers do not want to return to the site where nearly 3,000 people were killed.
On Thursday, it announced it planned to refer to the building by its address -- One World Trade Center -- because that was easiest for people to identify with.
"As we market the building, we will ensure that the building is presented in the best possible way," Port Authority Chairman Anthony Coscia told reporters on Thursday.
The plan was savaged by local tabloids. "Free Dumb Tower," was the New York Post's reaction, while the Daily News' front-page headline was: "No More Freedom."
Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on Friday he was disappointed.
"I would like to see it stay the Freedom Tower but it's their building and they don't need me dumping on them," Bloomberg said on his radio show.
"If they could rent the whole thing by changing the name, then they should do that," Bloomberg said, adding the most important part of the rebuilding was a planned memorial.
"We're not going to forget what happened down there and in the end the real thing that will tell the story and memorialize and hopefully give us a lesson that this should never happen again is the World Trade Center Memorial," Bloomberg said.
George Pataki, who was New York's governor at the time of the attacks, told the Daily News the name Freedom Tower was "symbolic of our commitment to rise above the attacks of September 11." He added the addresses 1 and 2 World Trade Center should never be used again since they were the names of the twin towers.
The Port Authority announced on Thursday that after on-again off-gain talks, it signed its first commercial tenant, Vantone Industrial Co Ltd, which rented several floors for a new China Center.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090327/us_nm/us_usa_freedomtower
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Does it matter what they name it?
Should they even build there?
What do you think?
CrAnIuM
03-28-2009, 01:52 PM
Does it matter what they name it?
Should they even build there?
What do you think?
No.
No.
Don't really give a shit since NY is filled with shit bags that have financially capitalized off of the horrific incident of that day.
The building owner had insurance, but the CITY will use tax payer money to build and sustain that site ?
Residents of NYC pay, Federal, state and CITY income tax. There are dudes living in Raleigh that have told me that they were making $120,000 year doing the same job they took here for $40,000. They state that here the 40g goes further than the 120g they made there due to the incredible tax burden and costs of living of NYC.
In my view people that attach sentiment to a location such as an atrocity or even a grave site of a family member are fucking moronic.
Graves and memorial sites are wastes of property and public resources.
They serve NO purpose for the interned, only for the retards that cant get on with their fucking lives.
NiBBler
03-28-2009, 02:20 PM
In my opinion people are already forgetting 9/11 so regardless of what the building is named or not it is not going to make a difference.
Negativecool
03-28-2009, 03:21 PM
Frankly, I can't believe anyone would be stupid enough to work in that building. It WILL be the target of, eventually, successful attacks.
Wisdom
^^^ What he said.
In my opinion people are already forgetting 9/11 so regardless of what the building is named or not it is not going to make a difference.
Well, we are working on the better part of a decade. Within a year of the attacks I was hearing people complain about standing in line for a couple hours for airport security, as if two hours of their insignificant lives actually meant something to anyone. Stupid people make me sick.
KommieKat
03-28-2009, 08:40 PM
Freedom Towers.
Ahahahahaha!
Sounds like typical communist propaganda crap. As if you don't hear enough of this completely misused phrase, now they have to name buildings?
Scarlet
03-29-2009, 01:42 AM
Does it matter what they name it?
Should they even build there?
What do you think?
Yes, they need to be sensitive and call it something appropriate but nothing to do with Freedom, terrorists or niggers.
No, the land should have been made into a park or paved courtyard. The authorities should have purchased the land and denied building consent.
NiBBler
03-29-2009, 02:07 AM
You know what? No one really has an opinion. Just bullshit pouring out of their mouths.
Scarlet
03-29-2009, 02:11 AM
You know what? No one really has an opinion. Just bullshit pouring out of their mouths.
How DARE you!!!!!
I gave an honest opinion and if you don't like it you can stick it right where that greasy nigger bastard shoved his ulcerated saggy dick....up your ass.
KommieKat
03-29-2009, 06:43 AM
You know what? No one really has an opinion. Just bullshit pouring out of their mouths.
Excuse me here, but you need to be responsible for your own opinions and conduct.
I still answer the same. It's George Orwell over there in "Freedom" land.
Libraries are not places of knowledge or wisdom but Ministries of Information.
Hospitals are not what they seem either. They are Ministries of Health.
You just don't see it yet because you're blinded by your own ignorance.
SlimSkeeter
03-29-2009, 08:11 AM
Wow this went south in a hurry, didn't it?
No, they shouldn't have rebuilt there. The only thing that people are going to remember about that site is that something horrible took place there. It doesn't matter what the name of the bloody building is or isn't. It doesn't matter that its supposed to be us thumbing our noses at those who would try to take us down. Its a waste of money that could have gone elsewhere.
SittinGrumpy
03-29-2009, 11:02 PM
I do not believe that they should build anything on this site. This is now (IN MY OPINION) a burial ground and should be treated as such.
I think the name was lame to begin with. So it doesn't bother me they are changing it.
KommieKat
03-29-2009, 11:12 PM
I do not believe that they should build anything on this site. This is now (IN MY OPINION) a burial ground and should be treated as such.
I think the name was lame to begin with. So it doesn't bother me they are changing it.
What they SHOULD build is an execution ground with a workable guillotine for Bush and the rest of those assholes who helped plan the whole damn attack.
I mean, we are agreed that it was the last administration that master minded it, yes?
SittinGrumpy
03-29-2009, 11:13 PM
more BS from the dumbass
Kommie....fuck you.
KommieKat
03-29-2009, 11:14 PM
Kommie....fuck you.
Listen up, Squaw.........
I am stating my honest opinion and if you don't care for it, live up to your own advice..........so, fuck you too.
SittinGrumpy
03-29-2009, 11:16 PM
Rant from a dumbass
whatever loser.
KommieKat
03-29-2009, 11:20 PM
Kommie....fuck you.
whatever loser.
You ASKED for an opinion.
Opinions are to be agreed on or disagreed about.
If you have an disagreement, it is better to state it, in some logical progression as to why.
Telling me to fuck off is not doing anything but making yourself look like the loser.
By the way, I am living life like a vacation on a daily basis, with a secure job.
Best you re-think who the loser is between the two of us, Squaw.
Lastly, never EVER should a Squaw be allowed to tell a white man what to do.
SittinGrumpy
03-29-2009, 11:25 PM
blah blah bitch bitch waaaaaaaa
I don't give two fucks about YOUR opinion on ANYTHING. Get over your fucking self...no one cares if you are here or not...in fact most here wish you would fall off the face of the earth.
KommieKat
03-29-2009, 11:36 PM
I don't give two fucks about YOUR opinion on ANYTHING. Get over your fucking self...no one cares if you are here or not...in fact most here wish you would fall off the face of the earth.
Let's go over a few things, shall we......?
1. You asked for an opinion, I gave it.
2. You did not show any form of logical disagreement, but instead, resorted to low brow apish comments and that's a fact, Jack.
3. No one is crying here except you. YOU are deliberately changing my quotes to put yourself in a higher standing because of your inferior standing amongst your peers that you are desperately reaching out to.
4. I really don't care if people care or not, but you seem to. I shall still state my opinions.
5. Who are these people who "in fact most here wish you would fall off the face of the earth."??
Give names. Better yet, make a poll showing visible evidence, and not your goddamn mouth running amok, Squaw.
SittinGrumpy
03-29-2009, 11:44 PM
Let's go over a few things, shall we......?
1. You asked for an opinion, I gave it. And then you came back to talk about who is to blame...WHICH is when I said FUCK YOU
2. You did not show any form of logical disagreement, but instead, resorted to low brow apish comments and that's a fact, Jack. Arguing with a retard is pointless, you are not capable of seeing more then your side.
3. No one is crying here except you. YOU are deliberately changing my quotes to put yourself in a higher standing because of your inferior standing amongst your peers that you are desperately reaching out to. No one is crying...thats a stupid fucking statement...I am giving my opinion on YOU
4. I really don't care if people care or not, but you seem to. I shall still state my opinions. then state them and MOVE THE FUCK ALONG
5. Who are these people who "in fact most here wish you would fall off the face of the earth."?? There are enough threads here of people who hate you that I do not need to name them, they themselves have told you so.
Squaw. Coward
Now...fuck off bitch.
SlimSkeeter
03-29-2009, 11:46 PM
*sniff* I smell the odor of freshly eaten crabby patty.
CrAnIuM
03-30-2009, 12:12 AM
Hey !
Look !!
Its a Zombie eating a whore !!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Goddamn_prick/Zombie_Whore_Feast_by_GleamofDreams.jpg
Bif ... bam .. booom !
SittinGrumpy
03-30-2009, 12:15 AM
Hey !
Look !!
Its a Zombie eating a whore !!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b150/Goddamn_prick/Zombie_Whore_Feast_by_GleamofDreams.jpg
Bif ... bam .. booom !
Damn GDP...I don't want to see your self made porn!
KommieKat
03-30-2009, 12:16 AM
Now...fuck off bitch.
Gee willicurs, you're an original one, aren't you.
"1. You asked for an opinion, I gave it. And then you came back to talk about who is to blame...WHICH is when I said FUCK YOU
Seems YOU have a problem as to who I blame. Is this statement NEW to you? You've not see the differing opinions other than what you've been spoon fed?
"I pity you, fool."
2."Arguing with a retard is pointless, you are not capable of seeing more then your side."
Although there are some real stupid people on the internet, I seriously doubt an actual retard could not make it beyond smashing the mouse on the pad. Now, there are some who are real close, and I admit to being ignorant about many things, but retard? Moi? Au contraire.
If anybodys a tard, that's you for your inability to express yourself with anything other than name calling, Squaw.
3."No one is crying...thats a stupid fucking statement...I am giving my opinion on YOU"
Here's where I come in and flat out call you a liar.
"blah blah bitch bitch waaaaaaaa"
You typed that in as my quote, yes?
You're not just a wannabe Squaw, your a lying wannabe Squaw.
4."then state them and MOVE THE FUCK ALONG"
But....but....why?
If I or someone states an opinion when asked to, why move on when things are not made clear by the person who asked in the FIRST FUCKING PLACE??!!
If you still don't get it, that would be you who asked.
5."There are enough threads here of people who hate you that I do not need to name them, they themselves have told you so."
Again, who the FUCK are they? Who are they to judge me let alone anyone else, especially anyone who uses HATE as a feeling towards someone they have never had the pleasure of meeting?
I see you're a conformist. Nothing else need be said here.
"Coward"
Coward? About what exactly?
I state my opinions on any topic matter without fear, and "I pity the fool" who gets in my way.
SittinGrumpy
03-30-2009, 12:27 AM
Bullshit...
Talking you to is like beating a dead horse. You aren't worth it...go back to your playground and die.
Scarlet
03-30-2009, 01:35 AM
I do not believe that they should build anything on this site. This is now (IN MY OPINION) a burial ground and should be treated as such.
I think the name was lame to begin with. So it doesn't bother me they are changing it.
This pretty well sums up how I feel about it too.
StumbledOnaRock
03-30-2009, 02:21 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090327/us_nm/us_usa_freedomtower
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Does it matter what they name it?
Should they even build there?
What do you think?
No ......it doesn't matter What they name it .
Yes ....they should Build there ...we are purging our land sources and need the space .
I think That these people went to work daily for money and hardship and there should be no reminder or memorial of how much they hated their boss or JOB !
Let's move on !!
what happened is Horrible but why should we give up Prime reality and act like we dreadfully care when we don't ?
You people Cling to the past to much and need to move forward !
So .....with that... said.. then all these "no" build comments ,,means we should never build anything or move forward ||"right ?" Because American soil is one Big Burial ground and we should have moved off after the great war that claimed us AMERICAN..... every bit of America has been a place of death from our past ASSHOLES Which made our FUTURE ! Think ABOUT IT !!!! !
FREEDOM TOWERS CAN KISS MY ASS !!!!
http://swollencranium.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=107&pictureid=1141
That's a stupid name !
OOHhHhh YYyyeaHHh !
rammstein1861
03-30-2009, 12:27 PM
Does it matter what they name it?
Should they even build there?
What do you think?
It does matter what they name it. With any disaster that has ever stricken the human population it has been customary to leave the name of whatever entity that was stricken in the past. This tragedy should be no different than the Titanic in the fact that no other building share the same address. Naming it World trade One and Two ignores the fact that World Trade One and Two are Fucking Gone forever, so in memory of those who lost everything the building that goes up there should be named by its address but it should be a different distinct address.
They absolutely must build there. I agree with cool in the fact that it may be a future target however to show our American Resiliency and spirit it must be rebuilt as a fuck you to those who did it.
Freedom Towers is a Fucking stupid name. Just like anything you put freedom in front of, Freedom fries, freedom kissing FUCK YOU.
Yes ....they should Build there ...we are purging our land sources and need the space .
I think That these people went to work daily for money and hardship and there should be no reminder or memorial of how much they hated their boss or JOB !
Let's move on !!
what happened is Horrible but why should we give up Prime reality and act like we dreadfully care when we don't ?
FREEDOM TOWERS CAN KISS MY ASS !!!!
http://swollencranium.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=107&pictureid=1141
That's a stupid name !
Have you ever seen Ohio Dumbass? Or Any Midwestern State for that Matter? This Country is Full of untapped land resources and for you to even say this makes you look like an idiot.
The memorial has nothing to do with people Hating their jobs or bosses you twit. It has to do with the fact that innocent people were maliciously killed at that job. They deserve to be remembered for the shear fact their lives were ended and they did nothing wrong except live in the wrong country.
You have obviously given up prime "reality"....
Kill_em_All
03-30-2009, 04:52 PM
Ridiculousness
Just when I begin to think that society couldn't possibly be in a more consistent decline you chime in to remind me why the rest of the world hates us.
I just wonder if, when you're beating on your keyboard in an attempt to string together a few words that vaguely resemble thoughts, you ever stop and question just how completely vacant and without merit everything you say is.
You're a fucking miracle. You have posted literally hundreds of posts and not one contains a single shred of anything that suggests you have any degree of education beyond grammar school (and that's being generous). Everything you type induces a headache. Your grammar is horrendous, your spelling is a fucking festival of inaccuracies, and I can't even begin to judge your opinions because nothing you type contains a shred of discernable thought.
You bring stupid to levels which I didn't even know were achievable and I hope you die.
Kill_em_All
03-30-2009, 04:58 PM
Personally, my opinion is this;
The entire ethos behind building there is to basically give a big "Fuck You" to the assholes who took down the first towers, who were basically giving a big "Fuck You" to us.
How do you think those assholes are going to respond to our "Fuck You"? I'll tell you how; by slaloming another couple of passenger jets into them.
It's a fucking stupid idea which will do nothing more than entice further response from Islamo fundementalists who put as much value on human life as they do on showering frequently. They might as well name it "Future Rubble Pile V2.0".
CrAnIuM
03-30-2009, 05:25 PM
How do you think those assholes are going to respond to our "Fuck You"? I'll tell you how; by slaloming another couple of passenger jets into them.
Agreed.
I spent the first few years of my military career in the midst of The Cold War.
Training, amongst other things, followed a principal of "Speed, Shock, Power and Violence.
In other words, get to the fight fast, get there when they least expect it, bring all kinds of big fucking weapons, and kill a PORTION of their military in a truly horrific way in order to play on the basic human emotion of "holy fucking shit I don't want none of that".
Well fast forward to towel head times and BAM. None of that applies because they are willing to kill themselves and their OWN kids on the path to kill all non Muslims.
A religious zealot does not understand, attrition, does not care for incremental combat and does not hold life in any regard other than a delay to the after world.
There's only two ways to deal with people like that;
a) Stay away from all of them.
b) Kill every last one of them.
It sure is a pickle.
Scarlet
03-30-2009, 06:02 PM
b) Kill every last one of them.
Ah, finally a sensible solution.
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